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information, ideas, feelings, problems and solutions on a personal
level.
I have been reading and posting on this board for several weeks.
So many have such horrible situations to deal with on a daily basis.
Some of you have alcholic husband/or wife. Some have son or daughter that has the problem.
Married to them, you have an oath you took before God, for better or worse, sickness or health.
With a child, you have the moral obligation for that child. However, that should end when the child reaches age 18. When the child is 37(such as mine), it is still difficult to deny them shelter at your house. Also, is it easier to kick a boy than a girl?
My daughter, God only knows what is going on with her. However, I think it would be unbearable to live with it under your roof every single day of your life. However, the not knowing whether she is alive, drunk, sober, hungry is killing me. You are darn if you do and darn if you don't.
All of this is on my mind tonight. And also wondering how my daughter is tonight. I feel as if I have lost her. God please bring her back to me safe and free from her disease.
Sorry for rambling. Just wanted to talk.
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Clara
------------------------------------ What don't kill you, makes you stronger!!!
I have no children - never wanted the responsibility, so I can only speak to the spouse part.
The 'til you part thing makes it very difficult. After almost 19 yrs (august) I think about how easily could I walk away except for the darned vows thing. The before God part is something in my heart and not before man so I don't have to justify myself that way. But he (AH) promised certain things to me when we got married. And he (AH) is not fulfilling those vows. There has been no honor and respect for too long...
But after 20 rs, it is not easy to walk away from so much 'trash'.
From my experiences and communications with my HP. If my HP as I have come to understand my HP has given me in HP's unconditional love,all of the time, abilities, and facilities to make my life into a example of HP's will for me how could and/or would I want to do any different for others around me? I loved my spouses and children and didn't stand in the way of the consequences of their choices. That is as I see it the same thing my HP (my "Father") has done for me. Here is something I heard and learned in recovery. You might already know it. "The life I have is God's gift to me. What I do with it is my gift to God." I believe I am responsible and I don't take recognition for the gifts only for the use.
I don't regret helping other either. Most of the help I do today is supporting others back to the connection between them and their HP's will.
I am sad with you about loosing your son. I have lost many family members to this disease, lots of loving relationships, lots of recovery relationships where the other person died sober after being a welcomed part in my life. The lost after they are sober and supportive is much more easier to accept than the other.
That being said, it's bad enough with a spouse, but I absolutely cannot imagine what it would be like if any of my kids developed this disease. For me, I think it would be even more heart breaking.
I've only seen the spouse side; I can't imagine my children going through this hell and being able to let it happen. Hopefully after watching their father's descent into alcohlism they'll learn to stay away from drugs and alcohol.
My thoughts and prayers are with you, Clara.
Linda
-- Edited by lmw on Friday 10th of April 2009 10:01:22 AM
I don't think there is a comparison, even though the disease is the same the feelings are completely different. It's kind of like asking would you rather lose your Mother or your sister. Both would be awful, and are.
Christy
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If we think that miracles are normal, we will expect them. And expecting a miracle is the surest way to get one.
I went through many years doing the dance of insanity with my AD, especially since there were grandchildren involved. I finally came to a place where I was physically, emotionally, and spiritually bankrupt.
Although she no longer has custody, she still has them a great deal, and I learned that no matter what I did, how crazy I drove myself, how much worrying I did, it did not change the outcome.
I finally surrendered and turned her over to my HP.
I sleep well at night knowing I have placed her in my HP's loving hands, and he is doing his work with her, regardless of what my eyes 'think' that they may see.
((((((hugs))))))
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"If a dog will not come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience." - Woodrow Wilson
I don't think I could answer that question because it has never been just one. I've had a parent, uncle, child, mother in law, boss, sister in law, and friends. Everything except spouse. Out of all that, today I know I would not tolerate an active alcoholic spouse.
My ex-wife had a parent, child, sister, and two husbands. She is fine, just ask her.. LOL. The problems are all someone else's.
I can tell you this: A not living with you is easier than A living with you.
I could see how it could be harder with a child b/c they are your creation & I think the guilt would be extra difficult to let go of being codependent & trying to feel responsible. You can't really give up on ur own child but divorce is so common & easy. I agree with the others here, it sucks either way.
Now, when I begin to worry about anyone, since I'm helpless anyway & the disease is between each one of us individually & HP -- I pray & give them over -- somedays I have to do it over & over. Then I remind myself that my only job, is to work on me, focus on me, be grateful & live the best life I can.
Thanks for the post & hope u hang in there & keep coming back.
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Light, Love, Peace, Blessings & Healing to Us All. God's Will Be Done. Amen.