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Seriously??? Is he kidding?




Okay he says that one of the big problems of stopping drinking is that he can't sleep.
so yesturday we went to the doctor and obtain some med that is supposed to help him sleep- trasadone and something called Naltrexone HCL supposed to decrease "cravings"- anyone have experience with this.
It was a dramatic experience that involved me having to promise the doctor I would dole out the sleeping med only if he wasn't drinking- due to potential interactions and him acting like an unreasonal mean baby- and doubting the honesty of the doctor of what she was prescribing. Ugh!!!! 
I may post about that later- but anyway he got these drugs anyone have any experience with them?
Something else on my mind that requires a different post.

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Aloha Glad!!

I'd take a look at the prescription warning regarding the drug and alcohol
and the synergistic effect.  Alcohol can and will multiply the potential of
many drugs causing an "over dosing" effect.

I'd also take a look at you being asked to be responsible for his medication
therapy.   Potentially this can bring you more into the target of blame for
being inadequate or a failure.

Find a way to do it different with the program.

(((((hugs))))) smile

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Well it sounds like he is trying. Naltrexone is known to help alcoholics stop drinking.

Of course he has to take them.

I know I never believed one word the A said.  I had reason not to.

Maresie.

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Hi,
I have some experience with Trazadone as a sleep aid; it is prescribed for people with insomnia, kind of an "old school" drug since there are newer ones on the market now, but still widely used. I do know that alcholics who stop drinking have a hard time sleeping. Experienced this first hand with my ABF when he stopped. His biggest problem was insomnia. I did some research on this (I am a nurse) and it is a legit medical issue for long time drinkers. I hope this helps.
dd

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I see a red flag. I agree with Jerry about taking on the responsibility of medicating him (taking care of him). Its a set-up. Hugs, J.

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My alarm bells are ringing too - the last thing you need is to set yourself up to be blamed for when the meds either don't work or work too well.

He's presumably an adult - isn't part of this program about letting go and letting them have the dignity of making their own choices and experiencing the consequences?

My attitude may not be construed as detaching with love, but you could look at it as detaching with love for YOU by setting that particular boundary.

Just my thoughts..

hugs,

bg

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Yep  he and doc just made u responsible for his drinking or not , if he isn't drinking he can have a pill  I am sure u have better things to do than watch and see if he is drinking today , if he is a alcoholic assume he is , he would sleep much better if he didn't drink , my husb used to be up half the nite when drinking- sober he sleeps like a baby = go figure .
this is a grown man surley he can be made responsible for taking a pill makes me wonder does doc understand how much this man drinks ????
He drinks cause he has a problem .... period  Louise

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Oh please. The old "but I can't sleep" routine. My ex cried the same thing. So my MIL would give him money to buy POT so he could sleep. After all, she figured POT was better than CRACK and if he couldn't sleep then he would never be in the right frame of mind to get soberconfuse

When my ex finally went to rehab and was diagnosed as bipolar 1 and a host of other mental illnesses and personalities disorders, he came home with a ton of pills to keep him sane and sober. I helped him with that schedual for a little while but just in the beginning. Then I left it up to him. After all, what would happen if I suddenly dropped dead or something? He'd have to figure it out on his own. ANd he did well for a few weeks and then ofcourse, as is the case in these situations, he decided he didn't need or want any meds, went off, relapsed and the rest is history.

I would say that when he has a real desire to get sober, he will do so without you holding his meds or his hand.

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Gads is that doctor insane??? I can tell you from experience, in order to dole them out, that means you have to "hide" them, that sets up a nightmare.

I swear my AH could get into my purse with me right there and steal meds.

Their whole disease will be constantly bugging you for them, looking for them. Don't bother trying to hide them. The disease is so crafty.

I am talking about the Trasadone. I am on it for a slight sedative affect and also it makes anti dreppressants work better.

The other makes it so it is not so much a pleasure to use so they lose some of the desire to do so. Fills in those receptors so the dope cannot get in there.

Again you know what? For me I would say, hey it is NOT my responsibility. I am not your mother, guard, med aid etc. Plus lets just get him addicted to trasadone now too.

From what I have experienced, a knowledgable doctor will not give an A this type of drug.

I still hide my pain med!! Even though it has been years, I know how powerful that drive is for them. If my AH was desperate, he would sneak here to find drugs.

fyi I finally found a place to hide them.... Mother made me Raggedy Anne and Andy. I hid them in Annes bloomers!!! hahahaha love,debilyn

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Thanks for all the answers everyone. Oh yep I have to hide them and any and all pain meds my doc might ever give me or my daughter when she has wisdom teeth removed etc.

It stinks, when he found out I was hidding them he actually said " don't you know if I wanted to find them I would.

and

Once when I asked him about hidding something from me he also said " If I wanted to hide something from you you would never find it.


I'm not sure why but both these statement make me feel disrespected. Is this me or is this attitude a sign of disrespect?

anyway he's taking the drugs ( with much hesitation to take the one for lack of interest in alcohol) I think he wants to be sober sometime but doesn't want to give up he "true love" entirely. and I don't care if he drinks a little, on weekends etc- but as we all know is unlikely possible if he is a true alcoholic.
Would be great to find out he could- sober 5 nights a week and during the day on weekends would work fine for me!!!,,,

I know it's was like being with a different person last night.- not all romantic or anything just normal and that is great!

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((((Glad)))),

I remember hubby taking the very lowest dose of Trazadone when he got out of rehab.  He did okay with it because it was non-addicting according to the doctors.  But he always hated to take any kind of pills unless he had to.

Here's my concern with the doctor asking you to make sure he wasn't drinking: How are you going to do that? Do you really want to babysit him? Are you going to believe him when he says he hasn't been drinking? YIKES! Talk about taking the focus off of you and putting it back on him. disbelief It would be one thing if he just had a sleeping issue.  Add addiction on top of it, that just stuns me.  eyepopping.gif

At what point do we allow them to be adults?  Allow them the dignity of making their own choices, good or bad? Addict or not, they are still adults with choices to make.  This where I have to Let Go and Let God.  Strong detachment comes in.  I had agreed to let a friend of Tim's to stay with us for one week after she got out of rehab.  The apartment is small and talk about trying to hide things. I would hear her going through the medicine cabinet at night.  Luckily neither of us had anything she wanted.  But I remember even having to be careful about taking blood pressure medicine in front of her. It was a very long week. The thought of hiding pills and trying to give them out - no thank you not for me.  Whatever you do best of luck.  You have lots to think about.  Love and blessings to you and your family.

Live strong,

Karilynn & Pipers Kitty aww

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