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well, since my son, Gnu, is under Baker-Act in the hospital...again, the poor unsuspecting social worker called me to interview me...again.
i got a little snippy (honey, i can do that.) and said, "oh. you guys again. i don't want to talk to him, please. don't put the demon on."
just to be sure she didn't end our conversaton by giving him the phone (i am not dealing with his tearful pleas or his angry shrieks about what a rotten person i am.)
she promised not to. said she just 'needed a little more history' on Gnu.
i told her, "Look lady, i'm in no mood to give you information i have given to your predescessors before...what you guys have in your hospital files would fill a frikkin' room. is your computer broken? can you not look him up?"
then feeling sorry for her, "okay, i'm sorry if i'm short with you. i just don't wanna rehash the history. let's keep it short. you want my opinion? lock this kid up and throw away the key. he needs 24 hour supervision, he needs to be on lock-down and not free to leave whenever he likes" (dream on, like that'll ever happen!) "he's been in an institution from the time he was eleven and aged out of the sytem. he's homeless, does any drug he comes across, drinks like a skid-row bum, and does not have a conscience."
she did not think it was all that bad.
i told her the lack of a conscience was confirmed by a few of his psychiatrists when he was child. they told then.
she asked was he ever violent.
i said, "well, that depends. do you consider him chasing his 80 year-old great-grandmother around with a butcher knife screaming, 'how do you want to die, old woman?' voilent? he was eight years old then." "how about disconnecting my shoulder? nine years old." "or beating my daughters with a baseball bat? ten years old." "My mother's arms are covered in scars where he bit her, scratched her and cut her with various objects." "he was arrested for domestic violence at the age of seven, been arrested for the same thing at least half a dozen times." "but since he turned eighteen, he only brags about stabbing strangers at a bus stop, or shooting folk to us. nothing we can prove."
she said something about being harmful to himself... i could not have been more frustrated. "Lady, he's been trying to commit suicide since he was six. usually right in front of his little sisters. he does that about three times a year. pills, hanging, that sort of thing. do you mean to tell me you have no records about this? i've told like four other social workers from this hospital the same thing."
she asked what he was diagnosed with...jeez...like i remember all those diagnosises! i told her, "he had a different psychiatrist every six months, each one had a new label to stick on him. bi-polar, schizophrenic, asperger syndrome, tourette's syndrome, oppositional defiant disorder, ADHD, whatever. he took every sort of med in your pharmacy there... from adderal to thorazine. you should have the records there."
she said she believed they might be able to keep him there for more than three days.
i told her, "i don't believe in fairy tales, Lady. he laughs at you guys. says he knows the magic words to get out of the hospital whenever he likes. and i do believe he does. cause he's never stayed there for more than three days since he hit adulthood. he'll be out tomorrow and the hospital will pass the buck by 'refering' him to someone else, and oneday the kid will end up dead. i'm sorry if i sound bitter, but i darned well am. i don't mean to unload on you, you probley are sincere. you probley believe that this time around you wil be the one to save him from slipping through the cracks. i won't hold my breath. i won't hope again. you won't make any more of a difference than any of the hundreds of people who came before you and tried. thank you for calling. if you need anymore information, please contact the Secret Service, they have a case open on him and could give you some details on his shenanigans. i'm done here."
(believe me, the Secrtet Service really does have an active case on my kid...he posted threats to my favorite presidential candidate on the fbi's website while he was under the influence of god-knows-what.)
why am i so d*mned mean to people like this?
maybe it's the way they always seem so hopeful. maybe it's the fact that i know, despite what i tell them, they are useless in locking Gnu down. (that child is Houdini in an institution) maybe i just don't want to have another person tell me that help is on the way (all lies) and this time around he will get the care he needs...
i know i should have been cordial and polite.
i just couldn't today.
i know i should have thanked her for her concern.
but such false platitudes were not forthcoming today.
Gnu, to the mental health care system, is a punch-card with state insurance to bill, that's all.
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Oh honey...I certainly cannot tell you that I understand even an ounce of what you are going through. But please believe that I am praying for you to have strength in yourself thru this trying on-going seemingly never-ending time. My thoughts are w/ you...Can you get power of attorney over him medically? I forget what it is called but maybe you can have him commited from his history...
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my Mum and i have talked about getting that done. i think it's called power of attorney, if i'm not mistaken. i think neither of us really wants to be the 'bad guy' so we end up just waiting for the other to do it. we know Gnu will hate the one who does it for life. i haven't thought about it lately (like within this year).
things'll get so overwhelming with his newest crisis (how he loves to see us all jump dutifully through his hoops!) that most days i'm just busy trying to stay on my feet, so to speak (he does have a way of yanking that rug when you least expect it...). and i'm concentrating so much on damage control that i clean forget things like your suggestion.
i think it is high time i let the Little Guy hate me, (well he already says he does, in for a penny in for a pound) and lock him down before he destroys another person's life.
thank you for pointing that out! hugz
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I certainly don't know if that's the best answer, that is something only you can decide. I just pray for you and your families safety. And Gnu. Good luck to you and keep us updated!
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Oh Rue, I am so sorry you have to deal with this kind of thing. Alcoholism is hard enough without mental illness on top of it. I hope you will look for a face2face Al-Anon group near you. It would help to find some people to talk to who will understand and who will not judge you or your son. I can't begin to imagine the pain you are feeling.
I am wishing you some serenity and a few moments of peace. Try to take some time for yourself. Once in awhile we have to stop and catch our breath if you know what I mean. Try to do something nice for yourself and get your focus off of him for a bit. It really does help, really.
Can you find some Al-Anon literature to read? This program can't get him sober, but it can help you feel better. Keep coming back and posting.
In recovery,
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"When you come to the edge of all you know you must believe in one of two things... there will be earth on which to stand or you will be given wings." ~Unknown
It is a living hell. I was married to a highly mentally ill person who self-medicated with alcohol. I had to leave the marriage and get a divorce because my very life was threatened.
Sometimes we have to fold up and hit the trail even with blood relatives. Some would say ESPECIALLY with blood relatives but I know that is very very difficult.
Just bear in mind that arguing or engaging on any level with anyone in that state is impossible. Change your phone numbers, turn your back. Leave him to his HP. Easier said than done, I know. But its the most loving thing anyone could do for him, in all honesty. Hugs, J.
There are groups for the family of the mentally ill. I think they are helpful. Obviously this is highly complicated and needs a lot of thought. For me strategy is everything. Maresie.
i talked with my Mum before xmas about the power of attorney... we both agreed to wait until after the holidays and his birthday to make a move. too much drama, we said (this is a family that thrives on drama, though).
so xmas came and my eldest daughter's boyfriend produced a ring and asked her to marry him. she was at the time 17 years old.
okay, so they would wait to actually marry, they said. good.
so far, no drama.
then new years eve and with it, my eldest daughter's birthday. she asked if her brother would come. i called and he said he'd love to, as he had been sober for about two weeks and thought he'd do fine. new years eve, though, he went to visit his girlfriend in another city. she is two months pregnant with his child. he did not sound so very sober on the phone, so i told him to forget it.
i told my daughter he couldn't find a ride out of the other city (she's the one who cries over his state the most and i didn't want her to know he was drunk or high.).
she knew anyway, she always does.
we had the party without him.
then four days later (a day before his 21st birthday), my mother called to insult my daughter in the worst way.
evidentally my daughter had gone out on a date with her fiance and around seven pm, gone back to his house.
my mother's friend, a crazy psycho snoop, sneaked through his front yard and peeked into his windows to spy on the two of them after she noticed his car in the driveway.
she called my mother to tell her all about my daughter and his love life.
my mother threw her out.
i called my daughter at her fiance's house and told her that my mother had thrown her out. this was to warn her about the drama gathering in the family. when my mother is angry, someone usually ends up in the hospital with injuries. i advised my daughter to have the police escort her to pick up her belongings. even with the cops there, my mother still dropped her laundry basket and lunged at my daughter's fiance...had the cops not been present someone would have been hurt or in jail.
so until very recently, i was fielding phonecalls and emails between my irate mother and my depressed daughter who can't understand how her precious grandmother can 'hate' her (precious grandmother said so, along with screaming about god and hell and harolts and fornication...).
it's enough to send someone screaming into the night.
i just patiently explained to my daughter that her grandmother was not mentally stable and her intentions were good, she was worried, but my daughter should not take what she said to heart, nor should she pick up the phone or go to my mother's church for a while until my mother was calm again.
i explained to my mother that our job as parent and grandparent making rules for my daughter was now over. from here on out, we can only give advice, and offer her our love and support. i reminded my mother that from my grandmother down to me, every one of the women in the family, including my mother, had lived with a man before marrying him and only i had faced the family's vocal and biblical disapproval. now the family wanted to punish my daughter the same way. "why is that, Mum? no one called you or my sister a whore, no one called my grandmother a whore. why did you call me one and my daughter one? it doesn't bother me that you call me these things. it never has. but it sure bothers me and my daughter when you call her these things."...
and so on.
i got distracted from Gnu and his own drama playing out on the sidelines.
i should have been watching him.
well, then, here's what happened while i was trying to piece my eldest daughter's self-esteem and faith in god back together (i'm no christian, but that child has always been one and values her spiritual life very much. i hated to see that torn from her.):
new years, Gnu did indeed party like a rock star.
he partied himself right out of his girlfriend's home, because her mother didn't like his behavior when he was drunk.
so he went to the T--- House, a homeless shelter in the same city as his girlfriend.
she caled him and told him she wanted to go out with him to the T---House for a few days just to spend time together.
so he asked an aquaintence from the shelter directions from where he was to the girlfriend's house. the aquaintance offered to walk him there. Gnu accepted.
when Gnu got to her house, he and the girlfriend left the aquaintance in the living room by himself and they went to her bedroom.
the aquaintance cheerfully relieved them of her grandfather's loaded shotgun...a shotgun Gnu had used with her grandfather's supervision and permission. the grandfather had taught Gnu to shoot with that gun for several months straight.
the girl's mother came home, found the gun gone and Gnu with her daughter and hit the girl.
so the girl, who had already packed her bags for spending a few days away from home, just decided to leave her mother and never come back.
Gnu found himself in the terrifying and frustrating position of being solely responsible for feeding, clothing and finding shelter for another human being. and he sobered up instantly.
Gnu spent all his ssi money procurring meals and rooms at various motels for her, then when he ran out, he borrowed money from friends to support her. they argued frequently about how he would not spend the night with her, but left after 1 or 2 in the morning to go back to his apartment. his landlord had already told him she was not allowed to spend the night there.
finally, about a week later, he slapped her and left her standing on the street in our very urban city where the poor little thing knew not one soul except him and his friends who did not like her. she went home to her mother. he went to the bar.
all along he was calling the secret service as he is supposed to do and reporting what he was doing, where he was at and so on.
the girlfriend called him to tell him there was a warrant out for him.
i checked the online warrants for both my city and her city and found nothing, but advised Gnu to just go dierctly to the nearest police station and turn himself in.
afterall, he had insissted that he'd had nothing to do with the shotgun's theft.
then i called the girlfriend's mother.
the mother screamed and cursed at me about how i ws no 'doing my job' and so on. she was angry that her daughter was pregnant. i agreed that i was not standing in her living room and preventing the two of them from sleeping together, but did explain that i had told Gnu that i believed he and the girl were making amistake by trying to get pregnant. i pointed out that we were talking about two adults in their twenties, not children, and we cannot control other adults. she is from the deepest hills of the ozarks so we did not exactly see eye to eye.
so i just redirected the conversation back to the warrant. "did he hit anyone?" (at this point i had no idea he had hit the girlfriend and he'd told me that he hadn't when i had asked him). evidentally the mother didn't know either, because she said he hadn't hit anyone. she said the warrant was for stealing the gun, as it had been found with both his prints and the aquaintance's prints on it and that she had pressed charges. "oh. okay. thank you very much. i am terribly sorry to bother you, mrs. ----." i said. she screamed a bit more then hung up on me.
eh, so a hick doesn't like me, small loss.
my son called me for two days sometimes several times a day to ask me to check the databases for warrants in both cities for him as he had left his own laptop at the girlfriend's home.
i never did see a warrant for him online.
then he called me up as drunk as he could be tonight to tell me that in his weekly call to the secret service, he was told by officer ---- that there was a warrant and he wanted to meet with Gnu tomorrow at 10 am.
i called officer ----- myself after Gnu said he wasn't sure if the warrant was for hitting his girlfriend or for the shotgun.
the officer confirmed it and suggested that my son turn himself in tonight, because the sooner it it done, the faster the process will go to get him the help that he needs. he said the warrant was because of the shotgun.
so i called Gnu and told him that the officer had told me the warrant was for the shotgun theft and repeated my advice that Gnu turn himself in at the local police station because it would look better then.
Gnu says he will call when he hits booking tonight.
and on top of this i have begun the process of quitting smoking...i smoke less than ten cigs a day and when this pack is gone, it's the patch for me.
if i'd have known new years what was about to unfold, i would have picked an easier resolution, something like 'world peace'...
now where's my blasted lighter?!
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