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MBJ


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Some advice needed


Hi everyone. I am new member here and hopefully some of you can hand over some advice. My husband is an alcoholic. He has been sober for little over a year and things have been going great. Lately we have both been going through really tough and stressful times. We just bought a house so we are going through the moving thing and the general anxiety of owning a house. Plus his job is really getting to him again. The past couple of days I have been convinced he started drinking again. I swear I can smell it on him and I am finding that I am scrutininzing every thing he is doing from the way he walks to the way to he looks to what time he falls asleep at night. This morning he woke up not feeling well, really bad heartburn. Yesterday he started talking about how no one can help him and he has to do everything on his own. He is saying that he does not fit in any where and that I am the only true friend he has. We got into a bit of an arguement this morning because I told him that his breath smelled like he was drinking. He got a bit upset and told me that is why he does not like to tell me when he is not feeling good because I always think he is drinking. Now, he isn't lying. When ever we, or I, or he has gone through stressful times before this is the one thing that is common, I always think he is drinking. But this is the first time that I have been getting those knots in my stomach, I am not sleeping, and I have this general feeling of fear and anxiety that we are about to return to the same path. He has been in AA and at first he was really into the program and was living it. Over the past few months he seems to have gotten farther away from the practices. He still goes to meetings a few times a week (except this week) but it is almost like he is just going through the motions. I wish I could make him see that his heart is not in it the way it use to be and maybe if it was he would not be feeling as crappy as he has been. I wish he could see that sometimes you have to approach your friends and ask for help. I don't know how to handle this. I don't know how to just keep going about my life and put me first. I am scared of what may happen. I am scared of going through what we went through before. If anyone can offer some words of wisdom I would appreciate it.

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(((( cyber hugs MBJ ))))

Welcome to the Board. So your AH has been working his AA program for a year now. Have you been to any al-anon meetings, yet? I encourage you to go and get all of the free literature on alcoholism you can and read it carefully & thouroughly. The 2 pamphlets that have hleped me personally the most are: A Merry Go Round Called Denial and A Guide for the Family of the Alcoholic.  You can also get literature from www.al-anon.alateen.org

Check out some of other posts, the Board is really educational and you are not alone in what you are going through. We have a chat room that usually always has someone in it and we host two on-line meetings each day. The hours are in the chat room.

I grew up moving around a lot, one year I was in 3 schools. I know how stressful moving can be. I've heard psychologists say, it's as stressful as losing a member of the family. Stress can make all of us do some strange things.

Recovery is a process, just like it's taken a long time for your AH to have gotten where he did in his disease, what ever it was that brought him to AA in the first place, it takes a lot for us to get healthy in our thinking. We all have slips. Maybe ur AH did slip, maybe he didn't. Sometimes we don't ever know. I remember very well, projecting about what they are or are not doing. I know it affects you. What we have to learn is to disengage from them & tune into us.

It sounds simple & you even said the same thing. But it's true, we cannot control another person, we can only control ourselves. My mind use to race & be obsessed & filled with thoughts of the other person. Once I finally gave up & plugged into me, it started to get better. Before that, I would end up getting suicidal ideations b/c I guess i thought that was some way to take power over my life or it was a coping mechanism. That is my old way coping. I am working hard to change my thought patterns.
    But I'd get so into thinking about someone else's issues - I wasn't living my best life. In fact, I was so anxious & worried, I wasn't living it all. I got so introverted, fearful, isolated & tired from it all. 

You can't really police an adult, ppl will do what they want to do. If an addict wants their drug of choice, often there isn't anything we can do. If they use, maybe they realize something and get back on track. If we spy or police them & check up, it usually just makes things worse. For me, it is far better to not start on that path b/c my old thinking will take over very quickly & I could be a very angry disappointed person fast. And it's mostly b/c I don't want to mother another adult & the old behavior disappoints me in me. Nagging doesn't help.

I can tell you it is a relief to finally let go of worrying, let go of the fear and simply focus on self. Tend to your needs, do nice things for yourself. My mom & Aunts always told me that men will be interested in me if I have an active life that I am interested in. Do some things for you. I know I used to feel completely out of control & insane when it came to my loved ones drinking/drugging/gambling. We can't force them to get well but we can learn some things that will stop enabling & feeding a fuel we don't even realize we are. I know I used to feel ashamed, guilty, scared around my A. Somehow what ever I was doing was allowing transference of blame, to allow him to go out. I no longer take responsibility for anything an A does. I do however, take responsibility for what part I actually do play in this life and encouraging an A to drink is not one of them. I also learned to not obsess on them, that has been the biggest hurdle/gift for me.

So, I am 40 & learning how to love myself first. How to keep the focus on me, it is very foreign but if I don't love me, an A will jump in so fast it makes my head spin thinking about it ! I deserve better & I will continue to work at acheiving all that I desire. We all deserve the best, no one wants to be abused, we want to be loved, so I'm starting with me.

Find a local meeting & if not I encourage you to keep posting & reading on the Board & check out a meeting in the chat room.  

We offer experience, strength & hope, no one can advise you to do anything, we can only share what has worked for us. I hope you give it a try & stick around, it's your life & you are worth it!

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Aloha MJB!!

What I was told when I got into recovery was that I was my alcoholic's spouse not her
sponsor so don't try.

The other thing, that really works for me is to get into and work my own program. That
means get into Al-Anon and find out what is required to regain my own peace of mind
serenity and attend to that only and get my own sponsor rather than rely on my
alcoholic for my peace of mind, serenity and recovery.

That is a suggestion only not advise.

When we pull away from program and what program requires we most often relapse.
I will not judge where your alcoholic husband is at, what he is or might be doing or
not. I am a member of both programs with Al-Anon being primary. What works for me
might work for you and you won't know unless you try it.

I started and the first suggestions was to do 90 meetings in 90 days. I did more and
it worked. Another suggestion was to get as much information at the meetings
regarding alcoholism and me and alcoholism and I did and I was relieved of many
questions I had and didn't have answers for and that relieved me from trying to rely
on my own lack of awareness for answers. I came in not knowing and not knowing
that I didn't know. LOST!!
Another early suggestions was learn the steps, traditions and slogans and get a
sponsor for myself. My alcoholic cannot be my sponsor and I needed to let others
into my life who had real recovery experiences and awarenesses.
Of course the consequences were that our life changed when I changed...mine
especially.

Looks like you are qualified to be in the program. Now what??

Yours in love and service. Keep coming back (((((hugs))))) smile.gif

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I am assuming that u are not in a prog for yourself - please find meetings and u will  undestand that there is nothing u can do about him or his drinking , only he knows the answer to the question are u drinking ?  If he is you are powerless over his decission to drink .  You can make yourself  sick worrying over something uhave no control over anyway  . me and m y head can go places i never planned on going in two sec flat - so I try to remember what i was told along time ago , alone in my own head there is no adult supervision  hehe , so I pick up the phone share my fears with people who understand where i am comming from and let it go . please find meetings for yourself as soon as possible . Louise

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sounds like a dry drunk to me.

Maresie.

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welcome. hey if you look above on the board you will see a wonderful gift waiting for you.

A very valued member, canadian guy is offering a free book that has been a lifesaver for many of us.

I can promise you, every question you have is answered in the book he is offering.

It feels good to share and give. So your accepting a book from him would be so cool.

In my experience, relapse is not  using..Relapse is a process and includes the result that is going back to using again.

Part of the process is missing meetings, not talking AA talk. There are bunches of red flags.

We have nothing to do with their illness of addiction. This is where the serenity prayer comes in. 

Also we did not cause it, we cannot control it and we cannot cure it.

When I finally let go, ohhhh what a world opened up.

There are meetings here in the Chat room that are great. You can also pm people for extra one on one help if you like.

Welcome. You are in the right place.love,debilynaww 



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Hi, I am newbie here too. Right about 1 month new. What I have learned most here is that I have to put the focus on myself. I have to make sure that I am okay.

I competely relate. I never could tell if my husband had been drinking or not. I didn't know who he was. I didn't know if he was a little buzzed, wanting to get a buzz, hungover, more than just a little buzzed. But of coarse I always could tell when he was TOTALLY WASTED. But I NEVER saw the alchol in his hand. That confused me more than anything.

Good Luck and keep coming back....you will find your peace here!

Sincerely,


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