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I've been with my A husband for almost 10 years. We've had 3 children with one on the way. I'm pretty much at my wit's end with him. After reading this board for the last few days I see I am pretty much a textbook A wife/sig. other. His biggest complaint about me is I'm a control freak. (in his words) I've always felt like I needed to manage his sobriety or he'd just spiral out of control. (worse than normal)
So I'm getting the idea that the biggest message of Al-anon is to let go and give up control (please correct me if I'm wrong) I just don't know how I would do that and not become detatched from him and just leave him. How do you just stay with someone who is going to continue drinking, do you become like roommates? I don't get it. I know when I've tried to "be cool" as he wishes and not bug him about going "out with the boys a few times a week". A few times a week quickly becomes 3-4, then 5 and then coming home sloppy drunk. So if I try to keep tabs on him then it's actually limited. (Of course the lies start, so I do see how that's not really working for me either, but seems the better of two evils)
So I guess my big questions are: how do you give up control without gaining more resentment and detatching from your A?
And does anyone else get bitter about even having to do all this work when I'm not even the A? That's the other thing I can't get past.
Thank you for your insite. Obviously I've hardly opened the door to this, let alone taken a step.
In Al-Anon we learn to seek happiness from within. If we are happy and secure with ourselves, it won't matter too much what the other people in our lives are doing, be they spouses, children, siblings, friends, co-workers, etc. We stop pinning our ability to be happy on the actions of others. We learn to respect each person's right to make their own decisions and learn as we work on our own happiness how to set boundaries that will help us to maintain our personal serenity.
There are many, many Al-Anon members who have learned to live with their alcoholic spouses and live perfectly happy lives, and there are many others who gained the courage to be secure in themselves in leaving the relationship. No one way is the "right" way - the "right" way is what YOU decide for yourself.
Detachment is not done without love. Detaching doesn't mean to react to your AH with anger or resentment and therefore slowly dissolve your love.
We learn, ultimately that we have no control over alcohol, and that in trying to control it, it has made our lives unmanageable. We've become restless, unhappy and irritable in trying to control the disease and force solutions.
So we turn the disease over to a higher power - a power greater than ourselves so we are no longer left feeling like we must try to control it and therefore free us up to focus on ourselves.
I encourage you to find some face-to-face meetings nearby and get to one. Try at least six. Pick up the free literature packets offered at every meeting and read it and see how it applies to you. Do you see yourself in there? Do you see your spouse in there?
Once again - welcome! You're on the right path to personal recovery!
Hi and welcome, My first thought was,when I read your post, "we don't ever have control over the A."
The first step is we are powerless. It is hard to face, but it is true.
As far as detachment,for me I love the A, but hate the disease.No different than hating the cancer, and loving my mother.
Your AH has not chosen to be an addict.
Sadly my AH had a brain surgery and the man I loved went away with the tumor. He is no longer the same guy.
So he is not here. However I can share my experience.
I loved him for him.I quit getting into his addiction. It was not my problem or business. I chose to learn how to live with it. We can only change ourselves, no one else.
But I tell ya way back when, when A was around, he acted bad one time and I sent him away, got a restraining order and we did not see him for ten years.
This is just my way. I would never put my children thru living with the A.
Alanon can teach us to look more at how we feel,what we want.
Pretty much we have all been where you are at now and feeling bitter is only one of the feelings weve experienced. If bitter is the only one you have identified for now...there are more coming and none of them nice until you allow yourself to get into the program and learn what it is and how to work it.
Detachment or letting go is sometimes identified with refocusing. You take your intense focus off of your alcoholic and refocus on other things that are more to your interest and benefit and growth. Alcoholics are not without perception and feelings cause they are also humans suffering from a life threatening disease. Being called a control freak is a clue to let go and the magic is not in the how to do it; it is in the what happens to me and my spirit when I do it...refocus your attention on you and your interests (notice I didn't say jobs.)
How did I do it? As my sponsor told me do it the best that you can and then repeat it and listen to others and how they do it and then try to do what they do repeatedly until you get good at it and practice it more so that you get better at it and letting go becomes automatic and/or a good habit. That's It.
You gotta start some time and some where right? Do you best. Leave the negative thoughts and feelings out of it and do it the best you can.
Good luck.
(((((hugs)))))
PS. Know what it's like when someone ask you if you heard what they just got thru saying to you and you say, "No I was thinking about something else?" That's a clue.
I just wanted to say welcome and encourage you to find a face2face meeting if you can. They will have liturature that will help a lot with understanding the program and people who will understand. There is a good pamphlet on detachment. It really helps explain the concept.
For me detachment is not letting myself get emotionally attached to the A's every move. I can look at a problem without emotion and see it more clearly. I still love and empathize with my A, but do not get drawn into controling or being controled.
Keep coming back here to. There are many loving people who understand.
In recovery,
Jen
PS- Many of us had to work through the resentment of havig to "do it all" while they did nothing but drag us down. You are not alone in this.
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~Jen~
"When you come to the edge of all you know you must believe in one of two things... there will be earth on which to stand or you will be given wings." ~Unknown
I have certainly been there. There are many many tools you can use in Al anon. One is to get busy with your own life. Do you have a life of your own? Mine was inextricably fused to the A for years. Another is not to argue with them. That was a hard one for me. I had knock down drag out fights with the A for years. Then gradually I stopped over time.
I would not actually attach that much significance to what the A says. They seem to want someone who has it all, patience, infinite wisdom, love on tap and a abiity never to challenge them on their responsibility.
For my A (who I have left) I was either an angel or a bitch. There was no inbetween. I was not permitted any bad days. Cooperation was not something he did at all. To get him to cooperate required tremendous wheedling. So when I stopped looking to him to cooperate and did it myself things changed.
I know this seems totally against everything you have ever done but that's the idea. We start to take care of ourselves and let the A suffer some of the consequences of their actions. We stop obsessing and start looking within and here for strength and support. I looked to the a who I lived with for support for 7 years, got very little. I came here 3 years ago and I still come here daily, there is tremendous support and love here.
I found it very difficult at first to give up the idea of controlling the A, I had tremendous anger and grief and for a while I had to just express that. This is a very safe and wonderful place to do just that.
yes I get bitter about having to do all this work and not even being the A however the more I go to face to face meetings I see that I had/ have issues related to this long before I was ever with anyone who drank. I am a codependant person who MUST have love and acceptance.. chooses people who have trouble giving love so I can "fix" them. then tell them how much they "stink" at being a human because they don't change...when they were like that when I chose them...when I "grow up" I want to be a caring person who is fine with or without love and acceptance from others and I have a long long long way to go!!!
I learned in a meeting today, by listening to others share about themselves that people with controlling parents sometimes grow up trying to make everything right before they can feel accepted, dancing a dance, trying to fix everything so they will be whole and complete and okay.
When I grow up I also want to pick people to be in my life based on what they can offer me. Which is a huge leap for me as I've always felt that was selfish and rude and judgemental. To choose your friends or sig. other based on what they had to offer you almost seemed like a "gold digger" to me> but maybe not?
Some of us have found that when we get the detachment, yes, we realize that we would be better off outside the relationship. This program can save your sanity - it does not promise to save your marriage.
Some have found that with detachment, a lot of the bickering and unhappiness and frustration of the marriage is gone, and it is possible to realize that there really is a lot of love left. Using the alanon tools to keep from getting sucked back into the madness means that it can be possible to be happy in the marriage, whether or not the A is drinking.
I have 4 also and it can be a lot of work on your own especially if it really is 5 when you monitor the A too. When I first started detaching, I didn't know how other than to just detach, walk away - not with or without love. Needed to figure out what things I couldn't detach like I drive at night, I drive kids and I am in charge of kids no matter what he told them if he was drunk. I did grab his arm cause he was tipsy near a bonfire once but it got easier day by day to let him be responsible for himself. Later on now I can be detached with more love about things now & then. Love as acceptance of what is and appreciation for the little things of love, joy, kindness that might occur. (:
You know what when I first detached, I realized I had some time for myself and therefore, I was a better mom for the kids and they deserve at least one parent's love and attention full time. Take care of you and your kids, you are so worth it!! Keep coming back too. hugs, ddub
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