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Hello All, I have not posted in a long time but have often been back to read others posts and to try to figure out this crazy mess. I asked my A to leave last week, we were apart before and got back together to try to work things out, it lasted awhile, things were good....then it all started AGAIN, the lies, the broken promisses, the staying out later and later, feeling like no matter what I felt or thought didnt matter to him, feeling like I could just go away and he would never even miss me,and the biggest one...the fact that I couldnt control these things lol I have done alot of thinking the past week and am wondering if anybody else has this trouble with control, it seems like the more he lied and snuck around to drink the more I tried to make him not do it...and now I realize...I have just as big of a problem as him, I asked him to leave, he left, and Im STILL not happy, he would never listen to me when I tried to tell him how I feel, he would just get mad and tell me Im crazy and need help, I have told him straight out "IM LONELY" and he turned around and went upstairs to play his video game, so what do i do now that he wont listen? Hes not here so I text him like a crazy woman...what is wrong with me??? lol I know step one, I have read what everyone else has to say about it but...its hard to say because I have a control problem...I STILL feel like I can fix everything if everyone else would just listen and do what I say lol...Im trying to get better and for awhile I was but it seems like the more out of order my life gets the worse I get. I have asked my HP to help me with this, to guide me and help me find and answer but I am still waiting for him to get back to me on that. I love my A very much, I miss him and I want him home but I feel like I am losing myself and think I need this time to work on me, maybe if I get better I can find some peace in my life, with out my A...so if anyone out there has had to deal with this issue I would be thankful for any thoughts you have. I hope everyone has a safe, relaxing,quiet week end.
Going to meetings, having a sponsor, and working the 12 steps are a tremendous help for me. They taught me to focus on self, and to quit focusing on the A.
Trying to control others was like second nature to me; I didn't even have to think about it because I just did it.
For me, dysfuctional relationships were normal. That was my comfort zone.
I do ask God for help, but I need to follow that with action. It takes time and a lot of practice to 'deprogram' those learned behaviors like controlling.
Any new behavior comes with discomfort when I am trying to change. I just have to remember that the discomfort is only temporary, and that this too shall pass if I practice these principles in all my affairs.
I completely understand where you are coming from, but I don't have an easy solution. It takes work!
(((((hugs)))))
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welcome back. I think we've all been where you are now. Just try and remember to work on you and keep coming back here and to face to face meetings because it does work if you work it!
Ugh! did you ever bring back some memories! I couldn't get out of that control mode for the longest time. I think what finally happened for me was more like a childish shift. I finally had enough and thought "from now on I'm going to build on my life and he can destroy his if he chooses." (whichhe almost literally did). My first mission was to quit being lonely. I focused more on things I wanted to do and friends that made me laugh. I quit "waiting" for him to come home or wake up. Sometimes he'd walk in the door after being at the bar all day and I'd be walking out to have dinner with my friend. I quit worrying if he ate or not. I quit worrying if he was going to make it home at all. Not my job!! As my daughter says "I am NOT the one". As was said, meetings are important. They not only give you ESH but a place to go. Friends are important. You don't have to discuss what is happening at home. I used to leave it there and just do my best to have a good time. I made a few good frinds in Alanon meetings that were just as sick of thinking about home life as I was, so we agreed to only have fun and not discuss "them". When we focus on them, that's when the control issues come in to play. Then we drive ourselves nuts trying to change those things that refuse to change. It's like repeatedly trying to run through a brick wall. We back up and ram it again and again. The wall is never going to give and we just end up exhausted and bruised. It'd probably be a good idea to change direction.
tc Christy
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I agree with Christy - when the focus is on THEM - that's when the control issues come into play. Actually - when I focus on him, I tend to be like a rat on a wheel and I just run, run, run myself insane. I told a friend of mine just yesterday that I can't figure out my A's head - and that I don't even know that he can himself. As a matter of fact, if they examine his brain after he dies - they probably still won't be able to figure out what the hell was going on. lol So why do I think that if I obsess, worry, and other attempts at "control" - that it'll somehow have an affect on him? A's are busy listening to their own tapes that constantly play in their heads (much like us). Until they choose thier own recovery, nothing is going to change for them (much like us).
Showing up for ourselves is so important. Al-anon, outside interests, friends - those are all things that can and do go a long way to nurture ourselves. And the bigger our world becomes, the smaller the A becomes in our lives. Not to say that these human beings who are addicted are not important, but if we don't make ourselves more important in our lives, then we'll be no good to anyone else.
Take care of you. You know the saying......."An alcoholic is either going to drink or he won't. What are you going to do?"
You described the efforts to control very well in that the harder YOU fight something, the harder it resists.
I've been saying this a lot lately - when I'm caught in a confrontation with my AH, I'm learning to take the path of least resistance - and that's through ME, not my AH. I can give myself permission to drop the fighting or worry or obsession and just move on with my day instead of waiting for my AH to "get it" and drop it for me/us.
It's scary releasing that need to control - after all, you're only doing it because you care for the A, right? You just want to see him healthy and happy. I don't think there's anything wrong with wishing for the people we love in our lives to be happy and healthy - but how on earth are we contributing to their being able to be happy by badgering them all the time?
It's amazing when we figure out how to be happy for ourselves that we can then look at our A's and realize "Hey! They, too, have the ability to make themselves happy and healthy. But it's up to them to do it, just like it was up to us to make ourselves happy."
This control stuff isn't an easy thing to let go. Many of us grew up in alcoholic families so we learned these survival tactics early on.
I heard a great analogy at my Thursday night meeting. One member equated her trying to find her happiness through her AH with throwing a bucket into an empty well and expecting it to come back full of water. She'd keep throwing that bucket in and get mad when it would come back empty each time. Finally, she realized she needed to find another source for her happiness, and found that full well in her Al-anon meetings, other friends who were always willing to share laughter and love, and, most importantly, through herself.
Doesn't mean her AH is a useless empty well, though. He has his own contributions he can offer to the relationship, but in the well analogy, water just isn't one of those things he can provide. (I laughed when she said, "Well, if I'm looking for rocks or sand or dirt, he's got plenty of that!")
I liked it a lot, because I'm realizing, too, that my AH just isn't the person for me to go for when I'm looking for certain types of love. He's just not capable of expressing what I'm looking for. But my Al-anon friends, other family members and a lot of my non-Al-anon friends are great sources for that love and comfort.
Doesn't mean my AH is useless, either. He knows how to make me laugh, he can be affectionate on other levels, and can even be helpful sometimes. A lot of the time his disease gets in the way of his being capable of doing those sort of things, but when his disease isn't looking, surprise! AH just made me laugh! :)
I forgot where I was going with this.
In any case, it's great that you're here. I recommend getting to some more face to face meetings in the next few days - I can guarantee you'll hear something that just makes it all "click" for you more and more. And, if you don't have a sponsor, may I suggest you start looking for one? Sponsors are great as they're someone who you know you can talk to just about every single day if necessary. They're there to call when you're happy and when you're in a crises. Another mind to give you some levity before you run off and make rash decisions.
I could have written your post today I find it very hard to not focus on my A and his life. Last night he rang and said he would be back in an hour said he was going to have one or two drinks (hes a binge drinker) He then proceeded to turn his phone off and hasnt been in touch since. When he is sober after a binge he promises the world and my hope get raised this is why I try and control because he has promised but he is just telling me what I want to hear because he loves me and doesnt want to loose me. I have been down all day. But once I come on here I start to focus on me again and change my thinking then I feel better. My A loves me, its not personal. We have to accept them for who they really are they can only change if they want to. We are just making ourselves nuts pity u don,t live in Liverpool England we could go out todgether and let them get on with it. Just try and find something just fo that you want to do that will have a positive impact on your life and let him get on with his.
Isn't that part of the insanity we go thru? She's not here I am sad and lonely and waiting. She's here and I am angry and still lonely and waiting. I ask her to leave and I want her to stay. "MAKE ME HAPPY DAMMIT!!" I want to scream and she leaves to go drink. She's gone for days or she's gone over night and when I open up the front door to leave for work in the morning she falls into the livingroom floor drunk. I can figure it out and think I can if everyone gets quiet, lets me think and then follows thru on what I come up with.
I never knew that happiness was an inside job until a 16 year old Alateen clued me in. AHA!! my head said. "I miss her my compulsive heart replied." It wasn't about love on my part it was about addiction.
Why did I do what I did that got me what it was that I got? I had to come here to find that out so I could change me...only me and then go on and have a reasonably happy and sane existence.
I could have waited forever without a gaurantee of the outcome or I could do for myself what was sane and reasonable with a reasonable expectation that my life would become what I wanted it to be.
You can't fix what doesn't want to be fixed or doesn't agree to being broke.
We are powerless over alcoholism and our lives have become unmanagable. (the 1st step of the Al-Anon Family Groups program.)
Thank you all very much for your words of wisdom....I am going to do my best to work on this, today I caught myself!!!!! LOL GO ME GO ME LOL Grandson ( 2 yrs old) was over today, he is very much a "PAPAS BOY" so when he started throwing a fit that he couldnt find his papa I told him grampa went bye bye so he went to the kitchen window and started yelling for him....so I sent grampa a text telling him to call his grandson...he did and when he was done talking to the baby HE started texting ME....and I ALMOST got caught up in the blame game...who is right (me of course lol) who is the most to blame, why we should do this or that......same bs as always, then I thought "wait..what am I doing? Did I just not ask for everyones thoughts on this control thing?" KNOWING I AM MORE TO BLAME ON THIS SUBJECT THAN HIM!!!! So....I shut off my phone!!!! GO ME GO ME lol Had a very good visit with my grandson, and now I am going to go treat myself to an ice cream cone!!! Ive been on the "divorce diet" lol this week but think Im ready for something sweet.....think I will leave phone off all week end!!!! Hope you all had a great day!!!