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When a Man Loves a Woman


Hi (((((Everyone))))))

Had a little thread of events happen to me over the weekend that I wanted to share about. The thread began last Thursday night at one of my face to face meetings that I attend weekly. There was a new gentleman that joined us at the meeting. He shared with us that the reason he was at the meeting was that he had watched the movie "When a Man Loves a Woman" and had so identified with the character played by Andy Garcia that he just had to go to an Al-anon meeting!

For those of you who haven't seen the movie, it is about a couple, played by Andy Garcia and Meg Ryan who have some very familiar problems (familiar to us that is ) Ryan's being alcholism, Garcia's being that he is one of us!

Well after the meeting I attended I decided I needed to watch the movie myself because I had not seen it. From the title and stars I had assumed it was a "chick flick" and just hadnt bothered.

Boy was I wrong! The movie was very powerful and very accurately (imho) portrayed the family disease of alcoholism. In my case, I too could so strongly identify with the "husband". And I found it very amazing, how I could see his part in the problems of the marriage....when prior to this program I would have thought him the unappreciated hero of the movie!

Towards the end of the movie, Garcia is going to move away and is telling his oldest daughter, his step-daughter, that he is going. But that he loves her so very much and that he will call and visit her as often as he can.

Well this really struck a chord with me. I do not have any children of my own, biologically. But during my marriage, I raised my two step sons, the younger one from the time he was about a year old.

A year ago, they moved 5 hrs away from me with their mother. And as of the time of my viewing the movie, I had not seen or spoken to either of them in nearly 9 months. I had tried many times, via cell phones, emails but had been unable to reach them. In the beginning I tried hard. As days turn into weeks turn into months the attempts became fewer. I figured they know I love them. They have my number. They will call when they are ready. And it started become a hurt pride issue for me. They would come to my town to visit their school friends on occassions but not come by and see me. I would not even know they were in town until after, when I would run into someone who had seen them.

Well honestly, I didn't take it too personal. They are teenagers. Even when they lived with me, I rarely saw them! Very busy social schedule, you understand.

But seeing the movie and that scene in particular made me feel like I needed to try harder to reach them. Even if it meant having to contact their mother directly to do so.

So I called both boys cell phones. Neither answered. So I sat there, and was considering calling their mom, when my cell phone rang.

It was the oldest boy! He explained that he was playing music when the phone rang and didnt hear it. But saw the missed call message when he stopped playing.

He called me back. He sounded so happy to talk to me. We talked for about 30 minutes then I asked if he knew where his brother was. And he was with him. They were actually having a band practice he and his brother and some friends...trying to start a rock band. Well I ask if I can talk to him and he walks over to give the younger boy the phone. I can here him telling his brother "Phone..its David".

In the background I hear his brother saying, "What!!!! No way!" I could hear him running to the phone to talk to me...and he was so excited and happy.

I talked to him for about 30 minutes as well. About school, his new band, his friends. He told me he was passing all but one of his classes at school. Oh man, instantly the old me surged up and wanted to admonish him and find out why he wasn't passing them all. But I caught myself and just said what class. He says' Health. I am like, isnt that the easiest class of all? He answers, yeah, But it is right after biology, which is my toughtest class, so I have to use Health to recover! Oh man! I laughed at that and so did he. (ME!!!! Laugh about a class he is failing...how does that happen?)

A few minutes later, he is trying to tell me something and one of his friends starts harassing him. Step-son tells me, "hold on" and takes phone away..I hear him tell his friend.... "Dude, back the f*&^ off! I'm talking to my step-dad!" The friend is like, "Sorry man, I didn' know" I was literally rolling on the floor by this point.

It was wonderful to talk to them. And you have no idea how much it was a sign of growth for me, not to have gotten on to either of them about some of the things they told me. How that health class and that F-word would have affected me in the past. I would have been fixated on those things and missed all the rest. The joy in their voices at talking to me.....the shared laughter....them telling me that they love me and miss me.

If all came from this wonderful program. Starting in a meeting with someone sharing about a movie that had brought them to al-anon. A movie that then lead me to a wonderful hour talking to my boys. An hour wherein I was able to talk WITH them instead of AT them.

Thanks Al-anon, and thanks to my HP, whom I choose to call God for getting me here.

Yours in Recovery,
David

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Oh David this was a wonderful post. Thank you for sharing it.


Made me so happy to know you got to be in touch with your boys!  I am so sure it meant a lot to them too.


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Beautiful (((((((pa)))))))))) simply beautiful. Thanks for sharing that!

Luv, ma

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david,


Awesome share! Hmmm, listening to your HP really works. I could really feel alot of love there. Hope it continues for you.


In support,


Nancy



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(((David)))

That's sooo cool!!! Maybe next week at your f2f you can let that gentleman know what he did... in a round about sorta way. I bet those boys miss you a lot.

There are no coincedences ya know :)

Christy

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((David)),


What a beautiful alanon story! Thank you so much for sharing that with us, and I am so glad that you were able to recieve such wonderful gifts of the program.


Yours in recovery,


Mandy (Dolphin123)



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(((david)))


I have seen that movie several times.I used to feel sorry for the husband like you said you would have before Alanon.Now, like you, I see the sickness in him.That scene you refer to where he is talking to one of the daughters always makes me cry.I don't have any kids but that little girl is such a good actress!!


That is just amazing how one man's comment turned into connecting with your stepsons.I'm so happy for you.Good example of Alanon at work!


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David,

How wonderful! I'm so happy for you. The boys were so delighted with you making contact. You're clearly a very important person to them...and to us too!

Brilliant news!!!
AM

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hi David. I'm glad you made the call again. That is an awesome recovery story. thanks  Jill

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David, my friend, you have started my morning off with a smile from ear to ear!! Keep up the contact. Sounds like the sons are all for it too. This is the kind of thing that makes me all fuzzy. With love, Diva

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David,


Thanks for sharing that wonderful story - I am so happy for you & your sons - Glad that you were able to share that special time with them.  That is memories that all three of you will never forget.


I remember watching that movie prior to recovery - I hated it.  It reminded me too much of my life.  I wonder if I watched it now would I like it?? - May have to give it a try.


Thanks for sharing your recovery with us,


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David,


That was a great story.  I remember about 2 years ago that movie came on TV and my AW and I were watching it.  (I have a secret crush on Meg Ryan... LOL)


When I went left the room for something, she changed the channel, said that was just so depressing.


I have noticed the same with Seinfeld, the Simpsons and any other show that might be illuding to a person having a problem with drinking.


Of course that is not the most important thing... you have rekindled a relationship with your sons.  That is such a great thing for both of you. 


I am so glad to hear you made the call!  And so encouraged by what you shared.  Thanks for that!


Take care of you!



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Thank-you so much for sharing that beautiful story with us. I am so happy for you and your sons! Love, TLC

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What a fantastic story. I have certainly seen the movie and I have cetainly seen how I can identify with the charactors.  What a great job you did on holding back and engaging rather than trying to control.  I am glad those kids have you in recovery.


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((((David and Step-sons))))


Beautiful, now I'm crying.  There are so many miracles every day, if we only take the time to notice them!  So glad you posted!


I have seen that movie, too. Hub was not interested.  Maybe hit too close to home.  I thought it was good, though, have seen it a few times.  (sniff)))


I am so very, very happy for you.  I can feel your joy just beaming from this page!  Those boys are very lucky to have you.  And, you're right, they are teen-agers, after all.  So, that makes any meaningful conversation extra-special!


Love in Recovery,


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David-


  I just loved that story- I hope you will always make the effort to talk to those boys, I know it is easy to try to call and get no anwser than forget for weeks but it seems to me that those two love you VERY much. I know how important it is to have a male father figure in your life- They NEED you. They may never admit to that but they do-I wish you and them the best. I hope you have a great Day!!!


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David,

Those are the kind of stories that Ala-non is made up of. Thanks for sharing it, the wayyou told it, it was like I was there. Guess I have been! Thanks for reminding me of the movie. Since leaving my AH, it's probably time to watch it again. It's all in the healing.



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My bio-Dad A was still alive when that movie came out. I remember asking him what he thought about it..he said "something was missing". I had a chuckle about that because my father was always so self-absorbed..he didn't get the movie because it focused more on the non-drinker. He did like the remark Meg's character makes when she tells her hubby her new friend isn't a pervert, he's JUST a armed robber.  LOL

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Argh, I've had that movie on the recommendation of a therapist who said it's one of the only examples of movies that portray the Husband as the Alanoner (treated or untreated <g>) and the wife as the A.  Oh I've had it since.............................DECEMBER !


Hey at least I read the book he recommended and moved on to a 2nd title by that author. 


I'll try not to EXPECT something so wonderful after watching as your story, but I wouldn't mind.  LOL


Thanks for the reminder and the share.


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((((((((((((David)))))))))))))))),


Pass the tissues please.  That was beautiful.  I'm sending you homade potatoe chips for that story.  You never know when someone will touch our lives and have an impact.  Enjoy the journey.


Love and blessings to you and your family.


Live strong,


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David,


 


I've heard a few shares this week that have really touched my heart, and I can honestly say to you, your share started a tear rolling. One of sadness, and then great joy, for you and your boys. I think we find people when we really need them the most, and you found your boys again, and it sound like they really needed you too, so the timing was perfect for you all.


Good for you for contacting them, as you say pride can be a bugger(lol).Pride gets in the way of alot of happiness, but for you, you got by that.


I admire you, and you are an inspiration for all us allys, who are still sitting thinking about doing something, but too proud to do it.


Thank You


Love Ally


 


P.S. (if used in the right context, the F WORD, can be really funny (lol)


 Take care David and enjoy your family, you deserve them.



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A "not mentioned fact" in all your responses... the screenplay was written by Al Franken.  This is the same guy who wrote & starred in "Stuart Saves his Family".  Franken's insight into this family disease is uncanny.  The subtleties of Garcia's character really hit home for me.  I watched it & yelled at him!!! The 2nd & 3rd time I watched it & saw all of his issues & his dreadful treatment of his recovering wife - even if it was just a "superior" look.  Hey, co-dependence is ugly.  Stuart Saves his Family can get us to look at the mirror & laugh a little at the ourselves, the program, & drunks.  At the end there's an intervention scene involving Stuart's father that was not funny at all, never went through one but it seemed WAY too real.  If you're hurting or new... I think you should stay away from these movies.  They dig pretty deep - I don't think I could handle that when I was new to recovery.


If you watched "Lost" this week - one of the main character's co-dependant issues & issues with his Alcoholic father come to the forefront. 


The "House of Sand & Fog" is a good look into male co-dependant characters/behaviors.


"Cast Away" is absolutely the best recovery film of all... I got to my car & just sobbed for 10 minutes.


So... there's my "Entertainment Tonight" comments on film/TV!!


 


 



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