Todays reading is on the topic of forgiveness. The writer begins by acknowledging that in his/her early days in the program, he/she did not feel the capacity for forgiveness. The writer also stated that he/she equated forgiveness with accepting unacceptable behavior. Over time the writer learned ways to protect and set boundaries, especially around alcoholics. The writer began to practice say what I mean, mean what I say, but dont say it mean, and was able to speak plainly about situations or behaviors that were hurtful. The writer began to see that forgiveness was something to do for the self, and might include letting go of a harmful relationship.
There are so many sentences on todays page that hit me with: oh this is me. For a long while I equated forgiveness with some kind of giving in. As if I knew someone elses part was wrong, but I would accept it. I can see now that this is not only coming from a place of judgement, but also not healthy for anyone involved! I recently had a conversation with a friend about how forgiveness can include boundaries. I may be able to forgive a behavior or circumstance, while recognizing that I can no longer have that in my life. I grew up learning that we might forgive but never forget: remembering (and holding on to) when a person and or situation has been hurtful. I can see now that this can be tempered into the ability to forgive and set boundaries at the same time.
The Thought for the Day gives us: Sometimes the forgiveness process fosters deeper unity and connection between people. Sometimes it points to an exit sign.
The last sentence from the writer points to the clean feeling when we must leave but there has been forgiveness there are no negative ties holding us back from continuing on in good health and wholeness.
I hope everyone enjoys a peaceful Sunday:)
Mary
DM2021 said
Feb 26, 2023
Thank you so much Mary for your service and today's lovely reading.
I have a difficult distinction to deal with about this subject and do not know if anyone else
does, if so chime in!! When experiencing the daily nasty attitude of the alcoholic I find that
I can limit it when I avoid the verbal, emotional and physical triggers to the alcoholic but
that it tends to limit my interaction with him. I could leave but I still do love him so this
is the best way for me to cope and set boundaries. Forgiveness is obvious otherwise I
would have been totally gone by now.
SunnyFrog said
Feb 26, 2023
Good morning
I seem to have different thoughts and feelings about forgiveness on a daily basis as I work on myself. It's something I am still working through,forgiving others.
But I am beginning to forgive myself as I understand more and look back on my role in such a toxic,dysfunctional relationship. And trying to work this program without actually fully working it or getting it before. And for all my own mistakes.
That in return though is helping me move forward in my forgiveness towards others.
Have a good day.
PosiesandPuppies said
Feb 26, 2023
Thank you Mary for your service and your share.
I appreciate the shares of Debbie and SF as well. I can relate to SF's share of having different feelings about forgiveness depending on the day. In my healing journey, I have gone through many stages of forgiveness. Forgiving myself was the most meaningful.
Lately I have come to realize that I was so busy trying to be forgiving to my Ex, that I have not properly moved through the stages of loss. I have put anger away in a compartment in my brain, but it still affects me b/c I cannot shake the sorrow of losing all that I had. My marriage, my partner in life (scary as I get older & watch my octogenarian parents), my status in the world, some of the friends in my circle, my finances, etc. I had been so busy trying to be the "decent EX" that I haven't truly processed all my feelings. And it has been 5 years since I left, and 4 years since the divorce was finalized! So have I really forgiven? Am I truly practicing Forgiveness?
Food for thought.
We've gotten a break in the snowy/rainy weather today (In SoCAl no less!) - I am thankful for that. Too cold to get outside & putter in the soil. So perhaps I will attend to indoor things.
Hope y'all have a wonderful, relaxing Sunday! & PNP
DM2021 said
Feb 27, 2023
Lovely discussion and I commend you all for such wonderful effort, I too try to move past the
constant hurt inflicted by the alcoholic in my life's family. Working the program and working
on me and my perspective is a daily work in progress!!
Good morning everyone:
Todays reading is on the topic of forgiveness. The writer begins by acknowledging that in his/her early days in the program, he/she did not feel the capacity for forgiveness. The writer also stated that he/she equated forgiveness with accepting unacceptable behavior. Over time the writer learned ways to protect and set boundaries, especially around alcoholics. The writer began to practice say what I mean, mean what I say, but dont say it mean, and was able to speak plainly about situations or behaviors that were hurtful. The writer began to see that forgiveness was something to do for the self, and might include letting go of a harmful relationship.
There are so many sentences on todays page that hit me with: oh this is me. For a long while I equated forgiveness with some kind of giving in. As if I knew someone elses part was wrong, but I would accept it. I can see now that this is not only coming from a place of judgement, but also not healthy for anyone involved! I recently had a conversation with a friend about how forgiveness can include boundaries. I may be able to forgive a behavior or circumstance, while recognizing that I can no longer have that in my life. I grew up learning that we might forgive but never forget: remembering (and holding on to) when a person and or situation has been hurtful. I can see now that this can be tempered into the ability to forgive and set boundaries at the same time.
The Thought for the Day gives us: Sometimes the forgiveness process fosters deeper unity and connection between people. Sometimes it points to an exit sign.
The last sentence from the writer points to the clean feeling when we must leave but there has been forgiveness there are no negative ties holding us back from continuing on in good health and wholeness.
I hope everyone enjoys a peaceful Sunday:)
Mary
I have a difficult distinction to deal with about this subject and do not know if anyone else
does, if so chime in!! When experiencing the daily nasty attitude of the alcoholic I find that
I can limit it when I avoid the verbal, emotional and physical triggers to the alcoholic but
that it tends to limit my interaction with him. I could leave but I still do love him so this
is the best way for me to cope and set boundaries. Forgiveness is obvious otherwise I
would have been totally gone by now.
I seem to have different thoughts and feelings about forgiveness on a daily basis as I work on myself. It's something I am still working through,forgiving others.
But I am beginning to forgive myself as I understand more and look back on my role in such a toxic,dysfunctional relationship. And trying to work this program without actually fully working it or getting it before. And for all my own mistakes.
That in return though is helping me move forward in my forgiveness towards others.
Have a good day.
Thank you Mary for your service and your share.
& 
I appreciate the shares of Debbie and SF as well. I can relate to SF's share of having different feelings about forgiveness depending on the day.
In my healing journey, I have gone through many stages of forgiveness. Forgiving myself was the most meaningful.
Lately I have come to realize that I was so busy trying to be forgiving to my Ex, that I have not properly moved through the stages of loss. I have put anger away in a compartment in my brain, but it still affects me b/c I cannot shake the sorrow of losing all that I had. My marriage, my partner in life (scary as I get older & watch my octogenarian parents), my status in the world, some of the friends in my circle, my finances, etc. I had been so busy trying to be the "decent EX" that I haven't truly processed all my feelings. And it has been 5 years since I left, and 4 years since the divorce was finalized!
So have I really forgiven? Am I truly practicing Forgiveness?
Food for thought.
We've gotten a break in the snowy/rainy weather today (In SoCAl no less!) - I am thankful for that. Too cold to get outside & putter in the soil. So perhaps I will attend to indoor things.
Hope y'all have a wonderful, relaxing Sunday!
PNP
constant hurt inflicted by the alcoholic in my life's family. Working the program and working
on me and my perspective is a daily work in progress!!