My SO volunteers at the small local cinema- and was out last night.
I watched a programme on TV, based in Las Vegas- about a police and probation worker dealing with people
with substance abuse. The guy said the recidivist rate was 97%. I had a nephew overdose and die in a house
at the back of us here. And another nephew in a bad bad way with meth. These last few months I have been
thinking:- what's the point? Why worry and why try to change anything.
I have read the writings of Charles Dickens, Victor Hugo, and Mark Twain- about youth issues 170 years ago
and nothing has changed really. If anything the scale of human failure has increased.
I am skipping my F2f meeting, at the moment. The group has built up to 4 or 5 people. I know full well that
people need to make their own discoveries, and make their own waves. I had borrowed an AA BB expression-
"half measures avail us nothing!" I put maximum time and effort to buy time with the group- including taking
a new member with me to an assembly.
I am 100% available to 12th step any male who comes along. Or to be a sponsor, if required. And to go along
and open the rooms if other people are unavailable.
To carry the message, and to not carry the person.
I am closely involved in networks of people, both in Alanon and ACA.
I am still learning. I am no longer beating myself over the head with a brick wall! [Hopefully].
My deep doubts did not amount to depression at all. More like problem solving and trouble shooting.
Let it begin with me. Monday this week i was at an Alanon meeting in a northern city. It was a great meeting!
Only four people- but around here we do get lots of meeting time at smaller meetings! :)
Let it begin with me. ...
Debb said
Jun 17, 2021
David, I do understand what you are talking about, addiction is the most cunning disease for sure.
I also understand the thought of why treatment is so difficult to achieve.
I tend to hang on to the 3% that will make it!!
-- Edited by Debb on Thursday 17th of June 2021 05:07:51 PM
-- Edited by Debb on Thursday 17th of June 2021 05:08:18 PM
Maresie888 said
Jun 17, 2021
Meth is on a whole other scale. So is fentanyl
Covid 19 did not kill the himekess fentanym is on a huge scale
I have read a lot about methamphetamine lately
I can now understand the pull of that addiction
I don't know that I did before
In North America the phenomenon of addictions indeed v er y very hard to deal with. I have to have meticulous boundaries around those with an addiction. They will pull me into it in a heart beat
My boundaries are sacred to me. They are as essential ad breathing.
I know how extremely adept addicts are at manipulating
Maresie
PosiesandPuppies said
Jun 18, 2021
What a wonderful share about how you are of service!!
I can't seem to watch a whole program about addiction anymore. Too many scenes hit close to home, and honestly, the hopelessness of it all does get to me sometimes. However, knowing that there are people like you... out in the world, ready to give support... that buoys my spirit!!
David!
JerryF said
Jun 18, 2021
There is and was soooo much I had and still have to learn about this disease that brings us and keeps us together. One of the things I have learned is that we are are all looking for happiness; some with the assistance of drugs and alcohol and others with the assistance of the love and compassion of others including a power greater than ourselves.
It was recommended by my sponsor and therapist that I learn everything I could about addictive chemicals and I went for it. Wow!! When the information hit my central nervouse system I understood finally what had and was happening to my nature. The chemicals were giving me what I wanted at the time and also what I wasn't wanting at the time and later. I wanted more and it gave/gives me more than my peace of mind, body and spirit can accomodate. It takes/took me to the doors of pain, unhappiness and death.
Now I can have pain beyond believe and still desire life. How crazy is that?? It's nice because of how and what I have learned from those who came to understand. ...The Steps...The Traditions... The Concepts... awwww The program.
Thanks family for teaching me thru your love, understanding and examples.
I watched a programme on TV, based in Las Vegas- about a police and probation worker dealing with people
with substance abuse. The guy said the recidivist rate was 97%. I had a nephew overdose and die in a house
at the back of us here. And another nephew in a bad bad way with meth. These last few months I have been
thinking:- what's the point? Why worry and why try to change anything.
I have read the writings of Charles Dickens, Victor Hugo, and Mark Twain- about youth issues 170 years ago
and nothing has changed really. If anything the scale of human failure has increased.
I am skipping my F2f meeting, at the moment. The group has built up to 4 or 5 people. I know full well that
people need to make their own discoveries, and make their own waves. I had borrowed an AA BB expression-
"half measures avail us nothing!" I put maximum time and effort to buy time with the group- including taking
a new member with me to an assembly.
I am 100% available to 12th step any male who comes along. Or to be a sponsor, if required. And to go along
and open the rooms if other people are unavailable.
To carry the message, and to not carry the person.
I am closely involved in networks of people, both in Alanon and ACA.
I am still learning. I am no longer beating myself over the head with a brick wall! [Hopefully].
My deep doubts did not amount to depression at all. More like problem solving and trouble shooting.
Let it begin with me. Monday this week i was at an Alanon meeting in a northern city. It was a great meeting!
Only four people- but around here we do get lots of meeting time at smaller meetings! :)
Let it begin with me.
...
David, I do understand what you are talking about, addiction is the most cunning disease for sure.
I also understand the thought of why treatment is so difficult to achieve.
I tend to hang on to the 3% that will make it!!
-- Edited by Debb on Thursday 17th of June 2021 05:07:51 PM
-- Edited by Debb on Thursday 17th of June 2021 05:08:18 PM
Covid 19 did not kill the himekess fentanym is on a huge scale
I have read a lot about methamphetamine lately
I can now understand the pull of that addiction
I don't know that I did before
In North America the phenomenon of addictions indeed v er y very hard to deal with. I have to have meticulous boundaries around those with an addiction. They will pull me into it in a heart beat
My boundaries are sacred to me. They are as essential ad breathing.
I know how extremely adept addicts are at manipulating
Maresie
I can't seem to watch a whole program about addiction anymore. Too many scenes hit close to home, and honestly, the hopelessness of it all does get to me sometimes. However, knowing that there are people like you... out in the world, ready to give support... that buoys my spirit!!
There is and was soooo much I had and still have to learn about this disease that brings us and keeps us together. One of the things I have learned is that we are are all looking for happiness; some with the assistance of drugs and alcohol and others with the assistance of the love and compassion of others including a power greater than ourselves.
It was recommended by my sponsor and therapist that I learn everything I could about addictive chemicals and I went for it. Wow!! When the information hit my central nervouse system I understood finally what had and was happening to my nature. The chemicals were giving me what I wanted at the time and also what I wasn't wanting at the time and later. I wanted more and it gave/gives me more than my peace of mind, body and spirit can accomodate. It takes/took me to the doors of pain, unhappiness and death.
Now I can have pain beyond believe and still desire life. How crazy is that?? It's nice because of how and what I have learned from those who came to understand. ...The Steps...The Traditions... The Concepts... awwww The program.
Thanks family for teaching me thru your love, understanding and examples.
(((((HUGS)))))
