Hi everyone. I am quite concerned re Johns status as he was unable to be present at the meeting he called for the future of this board. Is any One person able to make a connection with him, or his home? I Do believe this should be done. Also for to find out the access to keep this board up and running, and a plan B if it can't happen ie John is unable to communicate this information to anyone as his illness progresses. Is Anyone close enough to know of close connections, ie local friends, roomates etc? Not being an alarmist. Only prudent, as Hospice nursing was my profession. I base my impression on his post, email and picture, which I see is present yet after I didn't look down enough when tired. TY for prayerful consideration. NavGrace
-- Edited by IAmStrong on Wednesday 18th of January 2017 12:05:55 PM
DavidG said
Jan 18, 2017
I am friends with John. With my living in the South Pacific he is mainly a facebook friend. No sign of action there for three days. Will post any new information. I share your love and concern....
IAmStrong said
Jan 18, 2017
TY David....God Speed to John.
KennyFenderjazz said
Jan 18, 2017
Also, the post is still here and his picture is still there, I just looked at it. http://alanon.activeboard.com/t63100577/the-transition-of-mip-meeting/
IAmStrong said
Jan 18, 2017
Yes, TY for the correction.
DavidG said
Jan 18, 2017
No news from John for four days...
...at some point I think someone should make contact with the server for the board, and apprise them of the situation...
ACA has two group reps- but neither of us can make it Sunday. Alanon is by far the biggest group here on MIP... and "we" are drawing close to "the mother" at this time.
hotrod said
Jan 18, 2017
I spoke to John today and there is no need to panic. He is recovering and in complete control of his business sense. I know he will reach out to alert us in plenty of time to address the financials and server issues. Meanwhile the scheduled follow up transition meeting will continue to be held in the alanon chat room this Sunday at 6:PM. David, we can discuss your suggestions at that time.
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Jerry F said
Jan 18, 2017
Mahalo sister...
hotrod said
Jan 18, 2017
Jerry and MIp Na'u ka hau'oli
lookingup said
Jan 20, 2017
IAmStrong said
Jan 22, 2017
Well Good to know! Panicking? No. Prudent thinking to allow continuance if Gods will was present. Glad to know I can throw the concern away. Wishing you all well as you proceed with this. God Speed to all!
hotrod said
Jan 22, 2017
We held our transition meeting today and are moving forward. Financials were discussed and I will contact John tomorrow and hope to provide more updated information then.
Enigmatic said
Jan 23, 2017
Thank you for your service and update on this issue, Betty, much appreciated
Iamhere said
Jan 23, 2017
Ditto - thank you for the update and continuing to lift John and MIP up in prayer!!
DavidG said
Jan 23, 2017
Hi y'all.
The Alanon board is the biggest here with about 1000 hits per day.
The ACA board is the next biggest with about 200 hits per day.
We have two group reps, Mrs Snoopy, and myself david.
I contacted the server and came up with this information. It should complement Betty's approach to John today.
I replied to Dan- to contact John with the information.
"From: Sparklit Support - Dan
Posted On: 2017-01-23 09:49:15
Hi David,
I'm sorry to hear about John's illness.
There is an outstanding balance on the account, and the account may end up being downgraded to a free version quite soon unless it is cleared up. Should I pass on the specifics to John's email address?
Cheers,
Dan Sparklit Support
hotrod said
Jan 23, 2017
Hi David-"free" status sounds good to me. What does that actually mean?
DavidG said
Jan 23, 2017
Questions I would ask...
what service would we get here is we were on a free version?
Would it be possible to chip in through John's account to keep our account current?
How much is owing?
hotrod said
Jan 23, 2017
Hi David Those are important questions and ones' I have asked John and am sure he will answer. When you indicated that we might go to "free" status I thought you might know what that covered - i was simply curious.:)
More will be revealed
DavidG said
Jan 23, 2017
((((Betty))))
This will work out well, long term... off to a good start, doing the housekeeping... and showing our care love and concern to John...
I popped into the meeting yesterday, from work- trying out my new I phone. But because of the time zones it is easier to cover any details here.
Everyone will pitch in- where they are needed... ...
DavidG said
Jan 23, 2017
He aha te waiata... ...aha mele...
...the last time I saw you in person... like Alice in Wonderland was disappearing down a rabbit-hole, in the form of the NY subway!
I recall your parting words, and gentle concern ...
maybe i am just floating around here in cyberspace, communicating with my I-phone- my ultimate fate...
KennyFenderjazz said
Jan 23, 2017
Looking at the sparklit webpage, I don't see a free option, the cheapest I see is a US$6.49 version. I think John is on the $17.98 version, based on the meeting last night. Perhaps they would give us the cheapest version as a courtesy for a while? I suspect anything free wouldn't have nearly as many users available, etc.
Kenny
hotrod said
Jan 23, 2017
Thanks Kenny We can review this at the transition meeting on Sunday.
David, I was concerned about your riding the "MTA" and am glad that you managed so well and "returned "
IAmStrong said
Jan 25, 2017
What transition meeting??? lol I popped in just now to read your update you said you would post yesterday on past Sundays "meeting". There isn't one.
Several were inactive, you, Edna and others...No one answered basic questions or even acknowledged me. No one could answer my question for what was planned, or even say hello. A number of people were present. I saw others post things such as, "it must be a big secret" and leave...it was apparent others who attended were ignored as well. Your response here is lacking. Maybe it is not intended. You indicate ALL IS WELL:)))
Dave has shown otherwise, including Kenny and these are the same types of questions I was inquiring about as well. I was ready to help financially once details were discovered. Only it is discouraged and no information regarding coming two weeks in a row to learn Nada. Well, I believe this is not doing a service to the board. Opportunity for others involvement is being a part of the solution is discouraged, as the rest of us are not omnipotent. Transparency is lacking. It should have been stated, "A meeting will be held to vote in two reps from each area. The reps will meet and work out the details, and inform everyone else when they are ready to. Until then, continue as usual." Truthfully, this is what is displayed. If there is a future meeting, when, and where and the agenda should be posted for all to see. This is nonsense.
If it is a closed meeting as this past Sunday appears to be, it should be stated as so as to not waste peoples time. Also, the 2nd person on the Al Anon meeting room was not voted in at 50%, but apparently that is irrelevant as is the other "decisions" here? I counted the votes and the attendees. It was Below 50%, thus my asking for the remaining votes so no one would question at any time. No one took minutes. My question was disregarded. So, I now hold the belief there Is No Order. No meeting or election should be handled as such. Things should be undertaken with order, and not confusion. So I guess I will say, ty for the confusion! For those who have time for it. I don't with my own hospice situation I am liable for.
I myself am a person who is proactive, not reactive. Plan A, B and C should be at the ready to Avoid any collapse or partial services. Apparently, it is a panicking thought to think, or organize in this fashion.
Best Regards towards the success of this site, informative order and non controlling management when the help of all was initially sought. Words, and actions are not matching. Continued prayers as always for John, and MIP.
IAmStrong said
Jan 25, 2017
Thanks Dave and Kenny for the most useful information. I truly appreciate it.
a4l said
Jan 25, 2017
For the record there are several Edna's
This one is non-political as i am incapable of commitment beyond donations and esh on the board. I hope everyone can remain calm. Betty and Kenny, you both are trusted by this member. I'm sure more will be revealed, peace everyone
Mrs_Snoopy said
Jan 25, 2017
Hi, Mrs. Snoopy from ACA here.
IAmStrong, you make some good points.
IMHO, the Committee needs some basic organizational structure; meeting notices, agendas, minutes, etc. It is very difficult for 21 people to agree on anything and get things done; there should be two representatives per group as originally planned.
I believe the Committee needs to appoint a business manager who will get the admin rights from John, pay the outstanding bill, and keep the site going. Then the group needs to find a way to generate the minimal funds to pay for the site.
Just my ....
In Recovery,
Mrs. Snoopy
Doingmybest said
Jan 25, 2017
I do not wish to get in to the discussion, but wanted to let users know they can pop over to the AA board and read the info on John. It is VERY INFORMATIVE.
Wishing all of us a wonderful and blessed day.....
Mrs_Snoopy said
Jan 25, 2017
Thanks for the info., Doingmybest.
In Recovery,
Mrs. Snoopy
hotrod said
Jan 25, 2017
Great meeting format Ms Snoopy. I do believe all the confusion that was experienced at the transition meeting developed because everyone was waiting for John to arrive and chair the meeting. He did not attend and then someone kindly volunteer to chair. I for one am not a regular chat room attendee and did not know the established format for sharing= like how to indicate that you want to speak etc. I do believe that no agenda was developed because they felt John would host the next meeting and move us forward.
I have been unable to talk to John this past week . His nurse indicated he was holding his own and would call me back but I did not receive any call. I too have contacted the Board administrator and been advised of the amount due on the outstanding bills and received a breakdown of such. John has been ccd on all correspondence
Since he is the sole owner, I am hesitant about providing information to the entire Board that might appear detrimental to him . Since there is no plan to transition the Boards from John ,as yet it appeared premature to negotiate a format to replace him. The Board web administrator has been informed and states that they want a signoff from John to move forward.
There is still time to accomplish all we need and I believe the next meeting will be more professional. I have advised the meeting chair and others from the committee of my findings and am hopeful. Tanin from the AA Board has volunteered to co administer the Boards and the financials are manageable . Still attempting to connect with John,
Enigmatic said
Jan 25, 2017
Hello, Iamstrong. I was present at the original meeting called for by John on 1/15/17, 6pm EST. Without John in attendance, it is true there was some uncertainty, but those who were there for the duration of the meeting witnessed clear and transparent movement toward completion of one of the goals John set: appointment of representatives from the groups, along with establishment of the next step.
The largest group on the MIP board, AlAnon, received nomination of two representative members, hotrod and Kenny. These two were voted in by majority, with no dissenting votes. Member representatives from AA, NA, and ACOA were discussed and received at least partial fulfillment. Nominated representatives from those groups agreed on a meeting the following week during which they would move on with the discussion regarding the future of each group and MIP as a whole.
I have a transcript of that meeting, and do not see your name in discussion nor in voting, unless you were under a different name. The second meeting was set up for the elected representatives, and not intended to be an open discussion. I am very confident in the representatives chosen during that meeting, hotrod and Kenny, and their ability and commitment to work with the other representatives to do what is best for the board, group, and MIP.
Our representatives, and hotrod in particular, have expressed that they are doing all they can in their capacity. If you have questions about what transpired during the first meeting, I would be glad to assist, just pm me. I am grateful for the wisdom of the group and the selfless service of its members
DavidG said
Jan 25, 2017
Hi y'all...
I draw on the 12 concepts that all of our groups have- about achieving accord and consensus.
There is enough goodwill around MIP to achieve this- and more...
I was concerned when john did not make his Tradition 7 call at the end of last year.
It would not make sense to make payments though his house grooming account.
Is there a way of making payment direct to Sparklit to keep the account current?
I am hopeless at digital technology- not my bag. I do know how committees work at a small town level. I believe we did this on the ACA board when we selected Mrs Snoopy and myself as group reps.
I might be a lot easier to meet here on the Alanon board... not only do we have minutes, but we have the whole transcript here which Alanon members, at least can see. It means that we all can keep up with developments 24/7.
Once the situation is stabilised maybe we could create a "clubhouse" board alongside the Steps board to cover our joint discussions and issues.
As it emerges there is a lot of goodwill and friendship here, round the MIP forums.
I was initially gutted about John... but then we do what we do in actual reality- we move forwards to build on his legacy. If we can do this while he is still around I am sure it will be a comfort to him...
...
Mrs_Snoopy said
Jan 26, 2017
Thanks everyone for your service to MIP.
I don't see minutes from last Sunday's meeting, which I was unable to attend. Does the Committee have a mission statement? What are its defined responsibilities?
In Recovery,
Mrs. Snoopy
el-cee said
Jan 26, 2017
I dont have much time to give any meetings or be part of this but I wanted to thank the people who are doing the service work here and working towards resolution. Its good to see the program at work in this process. Its good examples of tolerance and patience and letting go and letting God.
This forum has a higher power and all will unfold as it should in God's time.
Change can be a trigger for me and I can react through fear of the unknown, maybe thats a symptom of alcoholism. I hope the folks doing the work here and volunteering for the jobs know that they are appreciated and valued and I for one are thankful for all the are doing.
hotrod said
Jan 26, 2017
I spoke to John last night, although he sounds weak he is a trooper and vows to be at the Meeting at 6 PM on Sunday. During the conversation he indicated that he felt that establishing a different pay pal account for MIP would be best and that he is not completely ready to turnover his role at MIP.
He indicated that he would send me an email that would provide detailed information that we can use to implement the transition and would discuss his overview on Sunday. I believe at that time we will have enough information to develop future plans.
Meeting again next Sunday same time.Here's cut & paste of the chat - more will be revealed:
ednaXray * SenoraBob snorks
ednaXray God, give me grace to accept with serenity
ednaXray the things that cannot be changed,
ednaXray Courage to change the things
ednaXray which should be changed,
ednaXray and the Wisdom to distinguish
ednaXray the one from the other.
ednaXray okay so, first thing first
ednaXray what groups are here today..2 people have said from the board. anyone else?
ednaXray alanon night meeting
ednaXray okay who all is from the aca group?
ednaXray I am from the alanon board I was speaking about chairing the transition meeting that
John called is that the meeitng we are all talking about
Hi everyone. I am quite concerned re Johns status as he was unable to be present at the meeting he called for the future of this board. Is any One person able to make a connection with him, or his home? I Do believe this should be done. Also for to find out the access to keep this board up and running, and a plan B if it can't happen ie John is unable to communicate this information to anyone as his illness progresses. Is Anyone close enough to know of close connections, ie local friends, roomates etc? Not being an alarmist. Only prudent, as Hospice nursing was my profession. I base my impression on his post, email and picture, which I see is present yet after I didn't look down enough when tired. TY for prayerful consideration. NavGrace
-- Edited by IAmStrong on Wednesday 18th of January 2017 12:05:55 PM
I am friends with John. With my living in the South Pacific he is mainly a facebook friend. No sign of action there for three days. Will post any new information. I share your love and concern....
TY David....God Speed to John.
Also, the post is still here and his picture is still there, I just looked at it. http://alanon.activeboard.com/t63100577/the-transition-of-mip-meeting/
Yes, TY for the correction.
No news from John for four days...
...at some point I think someone should make contact with the server for the board, and apprise them of the situation...
ACA has two group reps- but neither of us can make it Sunday. Alanon is by far the biggest group here on MIP... and "we" are drawing close to "the mother" at this time.
I spoke to John today and there is no need to panic. He is recovering and in complete control of his business sense. I know he will reach out to alert us in plenty of time to address the financials and server issues. Meanwhile the scheduled follow up transition meeting will continue to be held in the alanon chat room this Sunday at 6:PM.
David, we can discuss your suggestions at that time.
-
Mahalo sister...
Jerry and MIp Na'u ka hau'oli
Hi y'all.
The Alanon board is the biggest here with about 1000 hits per day.
The ACA board is the next biggest with about 200 hits per day.
We have two group reps, Mrs Snoopy, and myself david.
I contacted the server and came up with this information. It should complement Betty's approach to John today.
I replied to Dan- to contact John with the information.
"From: Sparklit Support - Dan
Posted On: 2017-01-23 09:49:15
Hi David,
I'm sorry to hear about John's illness.
There is an outstanding balance on the account, and the account may end
up being downgraded to a free version quite soon unless it is cleared
up. Should I pass on the specifics to John's email address?
Cheers,
Dan
Sparklit Support
Questions I would ask...
what service would we get here is we were on a free version?
Would it be possible to chip in through John's account to keep our account current?
How much is owing?
More will be revealed
((((Betty))))
This will work out well, long term... off to a good start, doing the housekeeping... and showing our care love and concern to John...
I popped into the meeting yesterday, from work- trying out my new I phone. But because of the time zones it is easier to cover any details here.
Everyone will pitch in- where they are needed...
...
He aha te waiata... ...aha mele...
...the last time I saw you in person... like Alice in Wonderland was disappearing down a rabbit-hole, in the form of the NY subway!
I recall your parting words, and gentle concern
...
maybe i am just floating around here in cyberspace, communicating with my I-phone- my ultimate fate...
Kenny
Thanks Kenny We can review this at the transition meeting on Sunday.
David, I was concerned about your riding the "MTA" and am glad that you managed so well and "returned "
Several were inactive, you, Edna and others...No one answered basic questions or even acknowledged me. No one could answer my question for what was planned, or even say hello. A number of people were present. I saw others post things such as, "it must be a big secret" and leave...it was apparent others who attended were ignored as well. Your response here is lacking. Maybe it is not intended. You indicate ALL IS WELL:)))
Dave has shown otherwise, including Kenny and these are the same types of questions I was inquiring about as well. I was ready to help financially once details were discovered. Only it is discouraged and no information regarding coming two weeks in a row to learn Nada. Well, I believe this is not doing a service to the board. Opportunity for others involvement is being a part of the solution is discouraged, as the rest of us are not omnipotent. Transparency is lacking. It should have been stated, "A meeting will be held to vote in two reps from each area. The reps will meet and work out the details, and inform everyone else when they are ready to. Until then, continue as usual." Truthfully, this is what is displayed. If there is a future meeting, when, and where and the agenda should be posted for all to see. This is nonsense.
If it is a closed meeting as this past Sunday appears to be, it should be stated as so as to not waste peoples time. Also, the 2nd person on the Al Anon meeting room was not voted in at 50%, but apparently that is irrelevant as is the other "decisions" here? I counted the votes and the attendees. It was Below 50%, thus my asking for the remaining votes so no one would question at any time. No one took minutes. My question was disregarded. So, I now hold the belief there Is No Order. No meeting or election should be handled as such. Things should be undertaken with order, and not confusion. So I guess I will say, ty for the confusion! For those who have time for it. I don't with my own hospice situation I am liable for.
I myself am a person who is proactive, not reactive. Plan A, B and C should be at the ready to Avoid any collapse or partial services. Apparently, it is a panicking thought to think, or organize in this fashion.
Best Regards towards the success of this site, informative order and non controlling management when the help of all was initially sought. Words, and actions are not matching. Continued prayers as always for John, and MIP.
Thanks Dave and Kenny for the most useful information. I truly appreciate it.
This one is non-political as i am incapable of commitment beyond donations and esh on the board. I hope everyone can remain calm. Betty and Kenny, you both are trusted by this member. I'm sure more will be revealed, peace everyone
Hi, Mrs. Snoopy from ACA here.
IAmStrong, you make some good points.
IMHO, the Committee needs some basic organizational structure; meeting notices, agendas, minutes, etc. It is very difficult for 21 people to agree on anything and get things done; there should be two representatives per group as originally planned.
I believe the Committee needs to appoint a business manager who will get the admin rights from John, pay the outstanding bill, and keep the site going. Then the group needs to find a way to generate the minimal funds to pay for the site.
Just my
....
In Recovery,
Mrs. Snoopy
Wishing all of us a wonderful and blessed day.....
Thanks for the info., Doingmybest.
In Recovery,
Mrs. Snoopy
I have been unable to talk to John this past week . His nurse indicated he was holding his own and would call me back but I did not receive any call. I too have contacted the Board administrator and been advised of the amount due on the outstanding bills and received a breakdown of such. John has been ccd on all correspondence
Since he is the sole owner, I am hesitant about providing information to the entire Board that might appear detrimental to him . Since there is no plan to transition the Boards from John ,as yet it appeared premature to negotiate a format to replace him. The Board web administrator has been informed and states that they want a signoff from John to move forward.
There is still time to accomplish all we need and I believe the next meeting will be more professional. I have advised the meeting chair and others from the committee of my findings and am hopeful. Tanin from the AA Board has volunteered to co administer the Boards and the financials are manageable . Still attempting to connect with John,
The largest group on the MIP board, AlAnon, received nomination of two representative members, hotrod and Kenny. These two were voted in by majority, with no dissenting votes. Member representatives from AA, NA, and ACOA were discussed and received at least partial fulfillment. Nominated representatives from those groups agreed on a meeting the following week during which they would move on with the discussion regarding the future of each group and MIP as a whole.
I have a transcript of that meeting, and do not see your name in discussion nor in voting, unless you were under a different name. The second meeting was set up for the elected representatives, and not intended to be an open discussion. I am very confident in the representatives chosen during that meeting, hotrod and Kenny, and their ability and commitment to work with the other representatives to do what is best for the board, group, and MIP.
Our representatives, and hotrod in particular, have expressed that they are doing all they can in their capacity. If you have questions about what transpired during the first meeting, I would be glad to assist, just pm me. I am grateful for the wisdom of the group and the selfless service of its members
Hi y'all...
I draw on the 12 concepts that all of our groups have- about achieving accord and consensus.
There is enough goodwill around MIP to achieve this- and more...
I was concerned when john did not make his Tradition 7 call at the end of last year.
It would not make sense to make payments though his house grooming account.
Is there a way of making payment direct to Sparklit to keep the account current?
I am hopeless at digital technology- not my bag. I do know how committees work at a small town level. I believe we did this on the ACA board when we selected Mrs Snoopy and myself as group reps.
I might be a lot easier to meet here on the Alanon board... not only do we have minutes, but we have the whole transcript here which Alanon members, at least can see. It means that we all can keep up with developments 24/7.
Once the situation is stabilised maybe we could create a "clubhouse" board alongside the Steps board to cover our joint discussions and issues.
As it emerges there is a lot of goodwill and friendship here, round the MIP forums.
I was initially gutted about John... but then we do what we do in actual reality- we move forwards to build on his legacy. If we can do this while he is still around I am sure it will be a comfort to him...
Thanks everyone for your service to MIP.
I don't see minutes from last Sunday's meeting, which I was unable to attend. Does the Committee have a mission statement? What are its defined responsibilities?
In Recovery,
Mrs. Snoopy
This forum has a higher power and all will unfold as it should in God's time.
Change can be a trigger for me and I can react through fear of the unknown, maybe thats a symptom of alcoholism. I hope the folks doing the work here and volunteering for the jobs know that they are appreciated and valued and I for one are thankful for all the are doing.
I spoke to John last night, although he sounds weak he is a trooper and vows to be at the Meeting at 6 PM on Sunday. During the conversation he indicated that he felt that establishing a different pay pal account for MIP would be best and that he is not completely ready to turnover his role at MIP.
He indicated that he would send me an email that would provide detailed information that we can use to implement the transition and would discuss his overview on Sunday. I believe at that time we will have enough information to develop future plans.
Meeting again next Sunday same time.Here's cut & paste of the chat - more will be revealed:
ednaXray * SenoraBob snorks
ednaXray God, give me grace to accept with serenity
ednaXray the things that cannot be changed,
ednaXray Courage to change the things
ednaXray which should be changed,
ednaXray and the Wisdom to distinguish
ednaXray the one from the other.
ednaXray okay so, first thing first
ednaXray what groups are here today..2 people have said from the board. anyone else?
ednaXray alanon night meeting
ednaXray okay who all is from the aca group?
ednaXray I am from the alanon board I was speaking about chairing the transition meeting that
John called is that the meeitng we are all talking about
ednaXray * Indie5 (Mibbit@Chat4all-63EF776F.sub-174-218-2.myvzw.com) has joined #alanonchat
ednaXray just raise your hand by ! please
ednaXray okay..
ednaXray and from the AA room?
ednaXray okay then and from alanon room?
ednaXray and from the AA room?
ednaXray okay then and from alanon room?
ednaXray !
ednaXray !
ednaXray raise you hand..lol
ednaXray !
ednaXray !
ednaXray !
ednaXray !
ednaXray !
ednaXray !
ednaXray !
ednaXray what.
ednaXray ! i am in aa and alanon
ednaXray oh!
ednaXray !
ednaXray !
ednaXray * NavGrace1 (Mibbit@Chat4all-387447D.neb.res.rr.com) has joined #alanonchat
ednaXray so if he wants 2 people from each group present we have hotrod and kenny from
the board.
ednaXray basicly
ednaXray are you 2 willing to serve on a committee?
ednaXray yes
ednaXray yes, I am
ednaXray yes
ednaXray yes, I am
ednaXray thanks..
ednaXray * shine (Mibbit@Chat4all-F40D7F6D.gondtc.com) has joined #alanonchat
ednaXray shall we vote them in?
ednaXray all in favor say ! opped @
ednaXray !
ednaXray !
ednaXray opposed..
ednaXray !
ednaXray !
ednaXray !
ednaXray !
ednaXray !
ednaXray !
ednaXray !
ednaXray !
ednaXray * MikeM3 (Mibbit@Chat4all-EE46E7DC.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) has joined #alanonchat
ednaXray !
!
mspw !
ednaXray okay thats over half so good youre on the committee
NavGrace1
NavGrace1 !
MikeM3 Is there anyway to look up early posts from this session. Was logged into both NA & AA rooms
when someone mentioned lots of people over in AlAnon room...
ednaXray now we have noone from the AA room..so i guess aha
ednaXray anyone besides Mike from the NA room here?
ednaXray Mike would you be willing to sit on a committiee to work on saving the room?
ednaXray All of MIP?
ednaXray MikeMP3?
ednaXray ding?
ednaXray is anyone here from the AA room?
MikeM3 Has there been discussion of the why of saving MIP? My understanding it started as part of a
Recovery House that later went under. There are numerous other online venues. Not saying MIP should or
shouldn't end a natural death, just saying it should be openly questioned.
ednaXray well there was apost on the board..and by the founder
ednaXray I think the AlAnon room is still pretty vital
hotrod I agree
Enigmatic agree
flyonwall agree
Indie5 I agree
ednaXray I have been here 18 years and I hate to seeit or the board go down
Kenny The All anon roo is vital, I haven't really been in the other ones to know
ednaXray right
NavGrace1 Agreed. I first came 15 years ago. I don't know how the other rooms work but have
seen Many people through the years, from various countries benefited by this room.
ednaXray so it looks like were now to the alaon room
ednaXray Ill open for nominations to be on the committie
NavGrace1 I had checked others out. The ones I did see...were quite limited compared. My
experience anyways.
NavGrace1 I nominate Edna
hotrod I have heard from t he ACOA room and they are interested in continuing. One member could not
be here today
MikeM3 Yes I understand that John wants to see it survive. BUT John was supposed to give us some
details of the "nuts & bolts" including finances involved. While I've only been involved on the NA MIP for 6
years I've been involved in NA Service for 36 years.
mib_kawt6a The alanon forum is viable ae a stand alone forum
mbub I'll second Edna
ednaXray okay Mike message me
mspw !
mib_kawt6a So is the AA forum
ednaXray okay lets get this voting out of the way
ednaXray then well talk about aa and na
mspw I understood from John he just wanted us to get some reps chosen to discuss details later
NavGrace1 Edna, do you accept the nomination?
flyonwall ! I nominate edna
ednaXray yep
hotrod !
NavGrace1 Great, all in favor?
mspw I second edna
NavGrace1 !
Enigmatic !
hotrod !
flyonwall !
ednaXray all in favor say ! opposed say@
mspw !
NavGrace1 Oops, ty!
Kenny !
gunner !
smiley1 !
Indie5 !
debbi !
mspw !
grace !
ednaXray thank you all for votes
NavGrace1 We have over half. Welcome Edna!
ednaXray okay i wannta nominate kis? if noone is opposed
gunner ! for kis
NavGrace1 I Second
mspw ! kis
flyonwall !
NavGrace1 !
Enigmatic !
hotrod !
Kenny !
mbub !
grace !
NavGrace1 .....Kis? Do you accept? Forgot an important aspect....
kismetstrand ummm ok lol
NavGrace1
gunner
ednaXray okay thanks
NavGrace1 Continue with voting for Kis?
Tahoe !
ednaXray she said yep and theres plenty of votes
ednaXray so..AA
ednaXray is anyone here from AA?
flyonwall I am
flyonwall but i am not from the aa rooms in here
ednaXray well i was concerned for that room on MIP
flyonwall I thought so ok .
Wagonn I am
ednaXray So Mike and I are in PM and passing emails
ednaXray You Wagonn are from the MIP AA room?
Wagonn yes
Wagonn 12 years there
ednaXray Are you willing to be a rep to the committee?
ednaXray and maybe you could find another volunteer to help us out?
Wagonn I can try it
ednaXray Its occured to me that these other group should choose their people
ednaXray and vote on them not us
ednaXray not the alanonners
MikeM3 NA we already discussed representation before this meeting.
ednaXray so if you would be so kind Waggon as to do that little thing
ednaXray good sounds great NA
Tahoe good thought. Or just ask for volunteers?
mbub could we work with those present to at least get that ball rolling?
Wagonn i can message it out
Wagonn to aa
ednaXray right
ednaXray okay then
ednaXray thats sounds like a good start.
hotrod I do know of one ACOA MIP member who is willing but was unable to attend tonight
ednaXray I want to encorage you all friends not to worry..
ednaXray good
NavGrace1 !
ednaXray grace?
mspw not to worry?
mspw You feel it will all work out Edna?
ednaXray Oh I really dont have much doubt
mspw ahhhh
mspw sigh great
NavGrace1 I want to suggest that in hospice, there are good moments, and not good moments.
John not being here very well can be from having a bad day beyond his control.
MikeM3 Everything will work out in HPs will not ours...we just do the footwork.
NavGrace1 I am saying that as a former hospice nurse. With that, I do ask for patience and TY
each one for caring and being here. I agree with Edna..
mspw I have to leave....dinner and company thanks all
ednaXray Is there any other business?
NavGrace1 And Mike TY mspw
Kenny What is next action
Kenny ?
MikeM3 Back to the Green Bay Cowboys game on the Big Screen not my phone!
ednaXray well we need to call a meeting
ednaXray shall we try and figure a good time?
Kenny Agreed. Sunday evenings are actually my best time in general
ednaXray i can make a room to meet in
ednaXray can we say then meet here next sunday prepared to do some figuring?
Kenny OK, sounds good to me, same time?
NavGrace1 Sounds fine to me.
ednaXray okay
hotrod sounds good
MikeM3 Agree Sunday evenings USUALLY good time but the reality is next Sunday is both the AFC and
NFC Championship games.
ednaXray we will take the committee to a different room
kismetstrand oh is that superbowl sunday?
MikeM3 No, determines who will be in the Superbowl...
mbub that's in early feb
NavGrace1 lol.....oh how dare we! I've No clue!
kismetstrand k
ednaXray well, uh
gunner lol
Kenny So yes, superbowl will be on a future sunday evening
NavGrace1 I know its very important
ednaXray what about next saturday at this time?
kismetstrand grins
MikeM3 LIFE beyond service work is part of balance!
kismetstrand lol
gunner
kismetstrand fine with me edna
Kenny I should be able to do next Saturday
hotrod i am not available
ednaXray if someone says they have to go surfing I will crawl thru the lines and strangle them
MikeM3 Would earlier than 6pm EST be better for East Coasters?
Kenny 6 PM is ok for me
kismetstrand suggests to edna maybe we should ask our new reps what is good time/day for each?
Kenny Oj, sorry, didn't se hotrod's input there
ednaXray kenny are you available?
Kenny The earlier the worse for me on Saturday. Sunday all day
MikeM3 Rephrase: is there any opposition to 6pm next Saturday?
ednaXray hotrod cant do sat
ednaXray what about a weeknight?
hotrod I am not available Will be at a wedding
ednaXray friday?
ednaXray at 6 pm eastern
ednaXray or 8 pm eastern?
hotrod Weeknights works for me Friday 6 pm is OK
MikeM3 No not any weekday or evening. I have business(s) to run. 6pm EST is 3pm Pacific so no go.
Kenny Friday at 6 is ok for me
NavGrace1 OK....Fri not for me, our Christmas...didn't have with Mom on hospice...BUT not all
can be at each so balance is fine
NavGrace1 In other words, I am willing to not attend so more can
MikeM3 Back to Sunday 6pm EST sounds best for majority.
ednaXray okay
NavGrace1 Edna, can the scripts be kept and posted somewhere for those who can't attend?
IKN
ednaXray then we are set
NavGrace1 IDK a thought
ednaXray well Grace we will give reports, ill call a business meeting after
ednaXray in this room
NavGrace1 Very good
ednaXray okay i have some emails
ednaXray so
ednaXray lets finish up
ednaXray anyone have other questions or concerns
gunner !
ednaXray gunner?
gunner will the buisness meeting for after be posted on the board?
gunner I mean the time and day?
ednaXray how about if we post what went on?
gunner thats fine with me
ednaXray k
ednaXray Im calling this meeting over
NavGrace1 !
ednaXray will everyone elected please pm me your emails?
Chatting
ednaXray
gunner
hotrod
Kenny
kismetstrand
mib_fkan0e
MikeM3
NavGrace1
Idlers
debbi
Enigmatic
flyonwall
grace
mbub
NavGrace
SenoraBob
shine
smiley1
Tahoe
Wagonn
Betty- could we include "ACA interim GR" Mrs Snoopy on our message board? Thanks.
Everything seems fairly fluid round here at the moment. Gr8 to know John is in the loop!
All of a sudden we realise that we are surrounded by talented people!!! I am sure we all will make the best of all this...
((((((((( Betty ))))))))) ((((((((((MIP)))))))))
I do not understand your question David. Mrs Snoopy has posted here already. She is no doubt alrady registered
We have a round of messages on the message board.
ACA is still discussing group reps- but in the meantime we have me, and Mrs Snoopy.
Mrs Snoopy has joined the Alanon board- so could she be a part of the message board network?
Thanks for the update, hotrod. I am planning on being at Sunday's meeting.
In Recovery,
Mrs. Snoopy
John is is a bad way, right this moment... not sure how bad... please pray...
Thank you Hotrod for posting the meeting, will try and make it this Sunday. David thank you ...will continue praying for John....