So what can I do about someone dying and what is that some one is my brother? How much if anything did I do to cause it and was I able to control and cure it? It's a God thing and perfectly acceptable and expected if alcoholism played a part in it. We were not close for many reasons the largest of which was the presence of the disease in our lives. This is a fatal disease and the fatal consequence happened. I would rather be grateful for the good times when and where after they happened including the great times that happened because of practicing our principles in all my affairs.
We got together for several hours months ago and that was our last mutual experience. HP was with us both at the same time and that for me is what mattered. We were together he as he and me as me along with our lovely wives. What more could I ask?
HP use Bob as an instrument in the lessons of unconditional love and Bob leaves others to continue the task. I am grateful for our program and for the peace of mind and happiness it has bought me. Much like this MIP family. (((((hugs)))))
el-cee said
Jan 14, 2017
I'm sorry Jerry. I'm glad you got to be with him and had your spirituality allowing you to accept him for him x
MomInMo said
Jan 14, 2017
So sorry for your loss. (((())))
hotrod said
Jan 14, 2017
I am so sorry Jerry. You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers.
2HP said
Jan 14, 2017
I am so sorry for your loss.
lookingup said
Jan 14, 2017
I to am so grateful for this program and the peace of mind it brings me,
I'm so sorry for your loss of a loved one,sending positive thoughts out to you.
Prayers .
hiraeth said
Jan 14, 2017
Jerry, what you've written here is so beautiful and profound. I admire you. I feel like bowing my head in respect because I know a little bit about the kind of honesty and integrity and strength and surrender you've developed, to be able to write such a thing about the death of your brother.
I am sorry for your loss and glad for him that that phase of his eternal existance is over.
Thank you so much for expressing it in this way and sharing.
Iamhere said
Jan 14, 2017
(((Hugs))) to you my brother. Love the honesty of your share and feel grateful that the last gathering was filled with life on life's terms and acceptance. I can not think of a greater gift for you from HP or for him either. May he rest in peace and you do as you are - remember the good times.
Until you meet again!!!
Jerry F said
Jan 15, 2017
((((Iamhere))))....My entire family was a disaster and I am back home in Hawaii because my sponsor back then suggested that I get away from all things alcohol. God it wasn't a circus ....it was a war. Each of us came out this long way with the help of a power greater than ourselves and all standing on different ground acknowledging the miserable paths we took. There just were not many good times together maybe later...maybe. This is healing and I am not going to interfere with it...just let it happen. Higher Power can always be completely trusted to make it come out in it's will. I thrive on that. Thanks ((((Hugs))))
Iamhere said
Jan 15, 2017
(((Jerry))) - I hear you......I am so sorry for the pain of the past. For me, it's at times like this where it wants to creep up. You are so correct that Higher Power can always be completely trusted to make it come out in it's will. I'm so glad that's what you are leaning into during your mourning. You continue to be in my thoughts and prayers brother...
tiredtonite said
Jan 15, 2017
(((Jerry)))) I'm sorry for your loss. Sending positive thoughts and prayers as you surrender your grief to your hp. Wishing you serenity. TT
El said
Jan 15, 2017
HP is the lifeboat coming to our rescue. (((Jerry)))
Jerry F said
Jan 15, 2017
That is a nice picture El...I like it. Thanks (((hugs)))
KennyFenderjazz said
Jan 16, 2017
Sorry for your loss Jerry. Wish I could help, but wouldn't want to get in HP's way anyway. You will be in thoughts and prayers.
Kenny
DavidG said
Jan 16, 2017
(((((((((((((((((((( Jerry ))))))))))))))))))
arohanui...
Jerry F said
Jan 16, 2017
I had a great inventory meeting last evening with my HP...What was revealed was a deeper understanding of family beyond blood content and dna. At first I was considering the family iw was born with...born into however as I kept looking at it the picture grew and grew and then in short order I came to understand that what was happening was I was looking at the family members I was born with that I didn't choose and those I did which is our programs. My family is very large and so very loving and caring. I met more of them this morning at the meeting and we had a great time coming to know each other. I think I will continue to allow my HP to take over my recovery. (((hugs)))
Iamhere said
Jan 16, 2017
(((Jerry))) - what you wrote made me think of the simple, yet powerful saying/statement/quote of, "I will grow where I am planted."
I'm continuing to send you positive thoughts and prayers. I can relate to my 'family' being way broader than those I'm attached to in blood. Huge (((Hugs))) brother...
Jerry F said
Jan 17, 2017
IAH ...I am glad that resonated with you as it did with me as I sat with my family this morning and listened and learned more. One of our "relatives" a fellow from the other side of the planet celebrated a milestone and shared his ESH. Each of our siblings have a different view of the journey based upon expectations and experiences and when then share it I (we) win further over our disease. Thanks for sharing always....((((hugs))))
Iamhere said
Jan 17, 2017
Prayers for continued healing Jerry....I am baffled by the disease and I am baffled by family. When the two overlap, I'm so powerless that my only answer is what the program suggests - trusting God and letting him lead. The disease has been alive and well around me lately in all 3 qualifiers and I'm resisting the pull as best I can. I'm beyond words grateful for my program family, including you and MIP folks.
You, my brother, ground me as does my sponsor. When she and I spoke this morning, we did end up with a chuckle as those outside of the program would think we 'make this stuff up'.....(((Hugs)))
wp said
Jan 17, 2017
Thank you for sharing, Jerry. Deepest sympathy on your loss . I lost my brother similarly and it was so hard on me. But, miraculously, I never dwelled on the Aism after that, and only the good times and admiration I had for him came to the fore. Peace, wp
So what can I do about someone dying and what is that some one is my brother? How much if anything did I do to cause it and was I able to control and cure it? It's a God thing and perfectly acceptable and expected if alcoholism played a part in it. We were not close for many reasons the largest of which was the presence of the disease in our lives. This is a fatal disease and the fatal consequence happened. I would rather be grateful for the good times when and where after they happened including the great times that happened because of practicing our principles in all my affairs.
We got together for several hours months ago and that was our last mutual experience. HP was with us both at the same time and that for me is what mattered. We were together he as he and me as me along with our lovely wives. What more could I ask?
HP use Bob as an instrument in the lessons of unconditional love and Bob leaves others to continue the task. I am grateful for our program and for the peace of mind and happiness it has bought me. Much like this MIP family. (((((hugs)))))
I'm so sorry for your loss of a loved one,sending positive thoughts out to you.
Prayers .
I am sorry for your loss and glad for him that that phase of his eternal existance is over.
Thank you so much for expressing it in this way and sharing.
Until you meet again!!!
((((Iamhere))))....My entire family was a disaster and I am back home in Hawaii because my sponsor back then suggested that I get away from all things alcohol. God it wasn't a circus ....it was a war. Each of us came out this long way with the help of a power greater than ourselves and all standing on different ground acknowledging the miserable paths we took. There just were not many good times together maybe later...maybe. This is healing and I am not going to interfere with it...just let it happen. Higher Power can always be completely trusted to make it come out in it's will. I thrive on that. Thanks ((((Hugs))))
(((Jerry)))) I'm sorry for your loss. Sending positive thoughts and prayers as you surrender your grief to your hp. Wishing you serenity. TT
HP is the lifeboat coming to our rescue. (((Jerry)))
That is a nice picture El...I like it. Thanks (((hugs)))
Kenny
(((((((((((((((((((( Jerry ))))))))))))))))))
arohanui...
I had a great inventory meeting last evening with my HP...What was revealed was a deeper understanding of family beyond blood content and dna. At first I was considering the family iw was born with...born into however as I kept looking at it the picture grew and grew and then in short order I came to understand that what was happening was I was looking at the family members I was born with that I didn't choose and those I did which is our programs. My family is very large and so very loving and caring. I met more of them this morning at the meeting and we had a great time coming to know each other. I think I will continue to allow my HP to take over my recovery. (((hugs)))
I'm continuing to send you positive thoughts and prayers. I can relate to my 'family' being way broader than those I'm attached to in blood. Huge (((Hugs))) brother...
IAH ...I am glad that resonated with you as it did with me as I sat with my family this morning and listened and learned more. One of our "relatives" a fellow from the other side of the planet celebrated a milestone and shared his ESH. Each of our siblings have a different view of the journey based upon expectations and experiences and when then share it I (we) win further over our disease. Thanks for sharing always....((((hugs))))
You, my brother, ground me as does my sponsor. When she and I spoke this morning, we did end up with a chuckle as those outside of the program would think we 'make this stuff up'.....(((Hugs)))