I would like to share two ‘reply’ post with everyone and anyone who might be interested. They kind of reflect where I at with certain things. Thanks in advance for reading them if you do: thanks anyway if you do not.
But, Al-anon is well organized. “Organize” is the root word of “organization”. And, Al-anon does have rules. Try getting your basement listed in the Al-anon directory. I still believe that it is the mental, emotional, social, and spiritual illness that needs to be addressed first and most of all. It was this illness that first allowed me to put a very toxic substance into my godly body in the first place. “Toxic” is the root word in the word intoxicant. I believe even those that only put one drink or other such toxic drugs into their bodies have to some degree the illness mentioned above. I believe anyone entering a non-relating relationship has the same illness. I think it is the ‘herding’ syndrome the human constitute that humans need to section themselves into groups the say that the members are unique because of certain circumstances and the rest are of the world is different. With or without segregated groups, like the birds above who fly without regard to where their next meal is coming from and God still feeds them, our gods, our higher powers will take care of us. Boo, to flags.
I find nothing wrong with anything being organized. I keep my kitchen well organized. However, I resent it when people, even good people (God did not make anything that is not good.), use the word organization to segregate themselves as being different than those in an organization as if organizations are bad and the segregated group of people known as Al-anon is good.
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Dear godly (A member), my parents did come with a manual named, “The World About Them”. Maybe they needed a better world about them; maybe they needed to be more involved in the world; I do not know. Hurt people do hurt people. That does not mean we are obligated to anyone or deity to love people who are doing the hurting. When I say I have done crimes; I really have done crimes; I was a most hurting person hurting in revenge and defense, the world around me. When I was a child the adults about me never developed my feelings. The only ones that I could feel were extreme fear, anger, and the ones that come with hate. Today, I know that for me to be in the Love that is my God, I have to Love all people. It is learning process and not one of perfection. I have very much less stress in, on, and around my being that I have chosen my God to not be judge at all. I have much less stress knowing there is really not a thing call ‘sin’. There is nothing I need to forgive my parents for. They did not commit any sins to be forgiven. I feel relieved that my God did not make an ultimatum that I love abusers. Today, I am learning to love them, little by little and little by little I am getting nearer to My God who is my heart. I respect your right and need to have a God that judges. God is so powerful that God can be anything you want God to be. Perhaps you chose that your God does not have that power, I do not know..
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Hugs & Luv,
mastiff said
Apr 25, 2005
You always have such wonderful things to say to all that post. Thank you for all that you give to this "orginization." It is always a pleasure to hear what you have to say. I have found that if I dont pay a whole bunch of $ to get "in" to any kind of membership to an organization, feelings of rejection or being made to feel lesser then, are often soon to come. That to me, is the beauty of alanon though. I dont have to pay some outragious sum of $ to get in. I don't have to have the right car or the right husband or the right anything. All I have to bring to alanon is me. Thankfully alanon is organizied enough to handles all the different classes, races, ages and charactors that bring their "me" here.
I would like to share two ‘reply’ post with everyone and anyone who might be interested. They kind of reflect where I at with certain things. Thanks in advance for reading them if you do: thanks anyway if you do not.
But, Al-anon is well organized. “Organize” is the root word of “organization”. And, Al-anon does have rules. Try getting your basement listed in the Al-anon directory. I still believe that it is the mental, emotional, social, and spiritual illness that needs to be addressed first and most of all. It was this illness that first allowed me to put a very toxic substance into my godly body in the first place. “Toxic” is the root word in the word intoxicant. I believe even those that only put one drink or other such toxic drugs into their bodies have to some degree the illness mentioned above. I believe anyone entering a non-relating relationship has the same illness. I think it is the ‘herding’ syndrome the human constitute that humans need to section themselves into groups the say that the members are unique because of certain circumstances and the rest are of the world is different. With or without segregated groups, like the birds above who fly without regard to where their next meal is coming from and God still feeds them, our gods, our higher powers will take care of us. Boo, to flags.
I find nothing wrong with anything being organized. I keep my kitchen well organized. However, I resent it when people, even good people (God did not make anything that is not good.), use the word organization to segregate themselves as being different than those in an organization as if organizations are bad and the segregated group of people known as Al-anon is good.
__________________
Dear godly (A member), my parents did come with a manual named, “The World About Them”. Maybe they needed a better world about them; maybe they needed to be more involved in the world; I do not know. Hurt people do hurt people. That does not mean we are obligated to anyone or deity to love people who are doing the hurting. When I say I have done crimes; I really have done crimes; I was a most hurting person hurting in revenge and defense, the world around me. When I was a child the adults about me never developed my feelings. The only ones that I could feel were extreme fear, anger, and the ones that come with hate. Today, I know that for me to be in the Love that is my God, I have to Love all people. It is learning process and not one of perfection. I have very much less stress in, on, and around my being that I have chosen my God to not be judge at all. I have much less stress knowing there is really not a thing call ‘sin’. There is nothing I need to forgive my parents for. They did not commit any sins to be forgiven. I feel relieved that my God did not make an ultimatum that I love abusers. Today, I am learning to love them, little by little and little by little I am getting nearer to My God who is my heart. I respect your right and need to have a God that judges. God is so powerful that God can be anything you want God to be. Perhaps you chose that your God does not have that power, I do not know..
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Hugs & Luv,
You always have such wonderful things to say to all that post. Thank you for all that you give to this "orginization." It is always a pleasure to hear what you have to say. I have found that if I dont pay a whole bunch of $ to get "in" to any kind of membership to an organization, feelings of rejection or being made to feel lesser then, are often soon to come. That to me, is the beauty of alanon though. I dont have to pay some outragious sum of $ to get in. I don't have to have the right car or the right husband or the right anything. All I have to bring to alanon is me. Thankfully alanon is organizied enough to handles all the different classes, races, ages and charactors that bring their "me" here.
Lots of love, Trina