These words were on a hallmark card that I had to by for myself heehee When I found it, I though I was reading strait out of my alanon lit!!!
*After a while we learn the difference between being liked, and being alive.
*We learn that being a loving person doesn't mean spreading ourselfs so thin we almost become invisable, and that we don't have to be a dumpster or a doormat to show how much we care.
*We learn that to be trustworthy, we must first be true to ourselves, and that there isn't any one right way or unforgivable mistake - that we can be afraid or sad and still stand our ground.
* We learn that our hearts can break and be strong again, that there's always tomorrow, and that we are never alone.
* And we learn from each other that we are not going crazy and were a lot healthier than we thought we were.
*Everyday I'm thankful for our friendship and all that you share and inspire in me.
Those words reminded me of all of you and how deaply rooted my love for all of you is.
Lots of love, Trina
-- Edited by mastiff at 19:13, 2005-04-23
Maria123 said
Apr 23, 2005
What a wonderful share my dear. You have grown so much. Love ya, lady, so glad you are here.
Maria
richard said
Apr 24, 2005
The healing information that can be found in any 12-step program as with Al-anon has been around for thousands of years and in many old books. The information is for those with mental, emotional, social, and spiritual illness. Do you know anyone that is not afflicted so to some degree? I feel it is disservice for the segregation of the groups to be. We should have healing centers every five or ten square miles where people healing from whatever gathered together. In the beginning before the controllers needed a name for their meetings at family homes and A.A. grew into a highly organized organization the whole family of alcoholics met together at one meeting. You knwo, the only guy who I 'heard' was perfect got crucified. I do not think I want to be perfect; whence where I grow?
Hugs & Luv,
cdb said
Apr 24, 2005
Hello,
I just wanted to share something I learned from my PATHS book about alnon. Alanon is a fellowship and not an organization. Alanon is set up so we are all equals. Well, this is what I have learned. I also know that a very great wonderful person I have met in alanon cannot go to an alanon get together for one reason or another that is close to thier home. This got me thinking too. I do try to be open minded and all. If I were to not be able to attend an alanon meeting due to who knows what because of some guideline,,since alanon doesn't have rules,,,I would still follow what I have learned and still be around those that give me support. But, I also see how alanon is run by people and people are human and so I am prepared for the time when if this were to happen to me, I will still be okay. With my HP/God I will be taken care of with our without alanon. Interesting that I had to even think about this, but that is life. cdb
richard said
Apr 25, 2005
But, Al-anon is well organized. “Organize” is the root word of “organization”. And, Al-anon does have rules. Try getting your basement listed in the Al-anon directory. I still believe that it is the mental, emotional, social, and spiritual illness that needs to be addressed first and most of all. It was this illness that first allowed me to put a very toxic substance into my godly body in the first place. “Toxic” is the root word in the word intoxicant. I believe even those that only put one drink or other such toxic drugs into their bodies have to some degree the illness mentioned above. I believe anyone entering a non-relating relationship has the same illness. I think it is the ‘herding’ syndrome the human constitute that humans need to section themselves into groups the say that the members are unique because of certain circumstances and the rest are of the world is different. With or without segregated groups, like the birds above who fly without regard to where their next meal is coming from and God still feeds them, our gods, our higher powers will take care of us. Boo, to flags.
I find nothing wrong with anything being organized. I keep my kitchen well organized. However, I resent it when people, even good people (God did not make anything that is not good.), use the word organization to segregate themselves as being different than those in an organization as if organizations are bad and the segregated group of people known as Al-anon is good.
Hugs & Luv,
-- Edited by richard at 08:42, 2005-04-25
Christy said
Apr 25, 2005
That was wonderful Trina. Thanks for sharing it with us. I'll be printing and saving it.
Originally, AA was called a fellowship and/or program. Humans have a way of catorgorizing everything from race to religion. I agree Richard, having places to help "anyone" and "everyone" would be great. However, what the program is called doesn't bother me, I try to ignore labels, whether they are put on people or places.
HP led the founder (Bill) of AA, and the founder (Lois) of Al-Anon down a path and they followed, Thank Heavens! For that, I'm eternally grateful.
These words were on a hallmark card that I had to by for myself heehee When I found it, I though I was reading strait out of my alanon lit!!!
*After a while we learn the difference between being liked, and being alive.
*We learn that being a loving person doesn't mean spreading ourselfs so thin we almost become invisable, and that we don't have to be a dumpster or a doormat to show how much we care.
*We learn that to be trustworthy, we must first be true to ourselves, and that there isn't any one right way or unforgivable mistake - that we can be afraid or sad and still stand our ground.
* We learn that our hearts can break and be strong again, that there's always tomorrow, and that we are never alone.
* And we learn from each other that we are not going crazy and were a lot healthier than we thought we were.
*Everyday I'm thankful for our friendship and all that you share and inspire in me.
Those words reminded me of all of you and how deaply rooted my love for all of you is.
Lots of love, Trina
-- Edited by mastiff at 19:13, 2005-04-23
What a wonderful share my dear. You have grown so much. Love ya, lady, so glad you are here.
Maria
The healing information that can be found in any 12-step program as with Al-anon has been around for thousands of years and in many old books. The information is for those with mental, emotional, social, and spiritual illness. Do you know anyone that is not afflicted so to some degree? I feel it is disservice for the segregation of the groups to be. We should have healing centers every five or ten square miles where people healing from whatever gathered together. In the beginning before the controllers needed a name for their meetings at family homes and A.A. grew into a highly organized organization the whole family of alcoholics met together at one meeting. You knwo, the only guy who I 'heard' was perfect got crucified. I do not think I want to be perfect; whence where I grow?
Hugs & Luv,
Hello,
I just wanted to share something I learned from my PATHS book about alnon. Alanon is a fellowship and not an organization. Alanon is set up so we are all equals. Well, this is what I have learned. I also know that a very great wonderful person I have met in alanon cannot go to an alanon get together for one reason or another that is close to thier home. This got me thinking too. I do try to be open minded and all. If I were to not be able to attend an alanon meeting due to who knows what because of some guideline,,since alanon doesn't have rules,,,I would still follow what I have learned and still be around those that give me support. But, I also see how alanon is run by people and people are human and so I am prepared for the time when if this were to happen to me, I will still be okay. With my HP/God I will be taken care of with our without alanon. Interesting that I had to even think about this, but that is life. cdb
But, Al-anon is well organized. “Organize” is the root word of “organization”. And, Al-anon does have rules. Try getting your basement listed in the Al-anon directory. I still believe that it is the mental, emotional, social, and spiritual illness that needs to be addressed first and most of all. It was this illness that first allowed me to put a very toxic substance into my godly body in the first place. “Toxic” is the root word in the word intoxicant. I believe even those that only put one drink or other such toxic drugs into their bodies have to some degree the illness mentioned above. I believe anyone entering a non-relating relationship has the same illness. I think it is the ‘herding’ syndrome the human constitute that humans need to section themselves into groups the say that the members are unique because of certain circumstances and the rest are of the world is different. With or without segregated groups, like the birds above who fly without regard to where their next meal is coming from and God still feeds them, our gods, our higher powers will take care of us. Boo, to flags.
I find nothing wrong with anything being organized. I keep my kitchen well organized. However, I resent it when people, even good people (God did not make anything that is not good.), use the word organization to segregate themselves as being different than those in an organization as if organizations are bad and the segregated group of people known as Al-anon is good.
Hugs & Luv,
-- Edited by richard at 08:42, 2005-04-25
That was wonderful Trina. Thanks for sharing it with us. I'll be printing and saving it.
Originally, AA was called a fellowship and/or program. Humans have a way of catorgorizing everything from race to religion. I agree Richard, having places to help "anyone" and "everyone" would be great. However, what the program is called doesn't bother me, I try to ignore labels, whether they are put on people or places.
HP led the founder (Bill) of AA, and the founder (Lois) of Al-Anon down a path and they followed, Thank Heavens! For that, I'm eternally grateful.